PRIMITIVE PAUL C.

Paul C. has been at the centre of enormous controversy of late. Well actually he hasn't, but we thought we'd better get in before he does. Read on...

You're the editor of Primitive Future magazine. It's extremely well written and produced, how long did it take you to complete?
Ugh, I can't remember, but it was too long. Thanks for your compliment, it is indeed a well-designed mag, very beautiful in parts. Some of the writing is okay, but in general it sucks! It's obsessed with Christianity, obsessed with being "Tasmanian" (whatever that means), obsessed with music and bands, and just generally juvenile and boring. I wish to distance myself from all my previous writings...I have bigger fish to fry.

What do you think about Hobart? A lot of people seams to have very thin skinnes where you're concerned.
I only care about individuals, not "scenes". I'm not sure why people take offence at my writing. Probably because they're a bunch of drug-addled hippies, incapable of higher thought. But I don't care what they think, as long as they keep out of my way! I realise that I've stepped outside the bounds of safe, conformist left-wing opinion and I'm going to pay the price for it…ostracism. It bothers me not a bit!

Tell us about some of your favourite music.
No comment.

What is love?
In actuality it is the deepest and most profound emotion, the means by which the limited connects with the infinite. In our corrupt society, however, the word "love" is routinely used to describe the shallow, insipid and vulgar entertainments favoured by the masses and thus, like so many other words, it has become detached from its original meaning. To be capable of love for others one must first feel love for the Self, duty to the Self (the meaning of the Sanskrit word dharma). I believe this is what Crowley meant when he proclaimed that "love is the law, love under will" and that "every man and every woman is a star". Without love, without connection, without depth and blood, there is only the Great Abyss of nihilism. Some of us have crossed it and some of us have not, while others walk unknowingly on the edge. Through my writing I strive to be a kind of bodhisattva, helping others across the vast expanse.
I also believe in love on a personal level, unlike the sad majority of people who are content with casual sex. I have yet to find my "true love", but one day I will. I can picture a fiery Keltic girl with red hair and green eyes, intelligent, conservative, kind to animals, and who either writes or appreciates good poetry. But perhaps I'm a bit too choosy! Anyway, so-called "free love" is one of the biggest lies in human history, invented by a bunch of dirty old hippies as a way of seducing young girls. Real love is of the spirit. It is personal, and it involves sacrifice.

Tell us of your up bringing. What were you like as a young lad?
What's that Dead Kennedys song that goes "who's that kid in the back of the room, setting all his papers on fire"? Well, that was me. Not that I actually set things on fire but I certainly wanted to! I was fine until about age eight, then the world started to become big and frightening and I became introverted and developed a massive inferiority complex. I could never relate properly to people, not my peers, teachers, parents, anyone. For a while I tried to fit in and be "cool", but it didn't really work. To this very day I can't stand people that feel the need to identify themselves as part of a group, rather than as individuals. The mob mentality scares me, which probably explains my antagonism towards the Left. I've always suffered from severe mental isolation, yet only recently have I been able to come to terms with it. According to a couple of doctors, I have a "schizoid" personality, meaning I have trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality. However it is the doctors who are at fault, not me. I understand reality perfectly - it is their shallow, reductionist way of thinking that cannot comprehend things like symbolism and metaphor. I pity them.

Do you think that there is actually a system of government, which is superior to all others? Is the downfall of any system always the corruption of those in power?
Well, there you seem to have penetrated right to the very heart of the matter. All systems perish when they become corrupt, though many people (especially certain types of conservative) cling to the illusion that it is otherwise. I sympathise with them, but it is useless to fight against it. Why "rage against the dying of the light"? If something is corrupt, then push it over the edge. It is the Way of things - everything has to die. If nothing ended, then nothing could ever begin. That is the Law over everything and it cannot be otherwise. Heraclitus realised this some 25 centuries ago. I tend to believe that existence is fractal; everything is in flux, yet there is a pattern underneath it all. And this goes a long way towards answering the first part of your question as well. No form of government is superior all across the board; it depends on the individual circumstances of the culture in question. Government exists to serve a culture, not the other way around, so the best form of government is one that truly advances a culture, which drives it forward. Thus the pure democracy of medieval Iceland is just as valid as the absolute monarchy of, say, 17th century France. The Roman Empire emerged only after the Republic had become incurably corrupt, yet both were legitimate. What is not legitimate is a system that makes religion and culture subordinate to economics. Materialist systems such as Capitalism and Marxism corrupt all that they touch, by their very nature. Only now, with the growth of the New Right in Europe, does there seem to be a valid opposition arising. The whining of the degenerate old generation-X slackers will soon be drowned beneath the rising chaos of postmodernity - then it will be time for my generation to prove its worth.

What's your philosophy in life, if you have one? Do you admire any great philosophers?
My philosophy is constantly evolving, though I think it is gradually focussing in on a single point of light. In any case, that is something to be explored in the new journal I am currently working on. I can certainly empathise with "elitist" philosophers like Heraclitus, Nietzsche, Aleister Crowley and Julius Evola, but I am also trying to get an overview of Western Civilization as a whole, the big picture of which they are all just parts. I want to find out what went wrong. For this a move to Europe in a few years will be essential. I have been possessed by this vision of Europe as a single being, a spiritual organism. I am no Hegelian, yet I do profess to a kind of Idealism which has been influenced by the dualism espoused by Traditionalist philosphers like Guenon and Evola. Unfortunately their works are extremely difficult to get hold of down here, but I understand well what Evola means when he says he believes in the absolute supremacy of spirit over matter. Matter is still regarded as necessary however, thus the Traditional philosophy is not dualistic in the Judeo-Christian sense, and is essentially "beyond good and evil". But really, I still have a lot to learn, and I'm always open to new knowledge and experience.

I've heard it told that you may be making the move to Melbourne. What has prompted this possibility?
You've "heard it told", ha ha. I may be relocating for a while to Sydney, or Melbourne, or Cairns. I don't know what's going on. Everything is up in the air at the moment. I've reached a definite turning point in my life, that's for sure.

Any thing else you'd like to add?
I'd like to thank you, James, for interviewing me in the mighty Fall of Because, which I think will one day be remembered as the biggest cult zine to have ever emerged from the tangled forests and mushroom-coated fields of darkest Tasmania. I'll always be glad to contribute to any future issues. All the best, and I'll see you in January!

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Interview November 17, 1999
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