Subterranean

Around the table of his Norwegian style log cabin kitchen, the idea was born to interview Necrosant of the Melbourne band Subterranean. He got to be interviewed, and I got something to put in this zine to hopefully detract from the fact that most of it is written by my goldfish. Read on…
Answered by Necrosant (guitar)

1> First off, the standard. When were you formed, who's in the band, brief history, which must be documented so when you become famous we can say "we knew them before they became famous!"
Subterranean was born in the Autumn months of 1999, after I had tired of looking for personnel to form a 'True Black Metal' band. Resigned to failure in the search for an appropriately skilled drummer, and growing slightly tired of the musical style I was attempting to emulate in my mostly solo efforts, I decided to turn to something different-a slower, rawer form of blackish metal. My warbrother Z.E.V. (Zombie Engineered for Violence) was always slated to play bass in whatever band I started up, and as it turned out, he had quite a death-throat on him-consequently, he would take both bass and vocal duties. I would handle the sixstring guitar-butchering, while my good buddy Jono took up the drum-stool. At the time of Subterranean's formation, I was listening mostly to Carpathian Forest demoes, Darkthrone, the Emperor demo, the first Immortal CD (later I realised that these were all Bathory/Celtic Frost-inspired works)... It was this sort of territory that I felt my new band should explore. We decided to tune down to D, and I proceeded to come up with brutal, dark, ugly riff-metal compositions. In the very early months of Subterranean, I was ecstatic with inspiration. This band, I felt, was something interesting, worthwhile and special. With the writing of the song "Necro Metal" (inspired originally by a passage in Shakespeare's Macbeth, believe it or not), Subterranean had a banner, a cause and an ideal. Our music would be ever more cruel and primitive. Once we started rehearsing more regularly, I pretty much forgot about whatever aspirations I had held to compose and play the usual black metal snore-music. Subterranean became my main focus, and remains so today. I feel I have found my niche/cave. As for fame, we live in hope! Perhaps one day we will have sex with girls in the back of limousines, Quorthon-style...

2> In the credits for your 1999 <> tape you thank A.D.D. A.D.D. seems to have become a bit of a 'buzz phrase' recently. Everybody seems to have been diagnosed with it. Why did you thank this? And yes, I'm well aware that A.D.D. could stand for something else, but just answer the question.
A.D.D. is indeed a 'buzz phrase' as you call it. I believe that so-called Attention Deficit Disorder is a product of two things-political correctness, and the mass media. To explain the former: it seems that nobody these days can be given an adjective which is not positive or 'pro-active' in some way. People are no longer called stupid-rather, they are 'intellectually challenged'. The fat are 'horizontally challenged'; the short 'vertically challenged'; the ugly 'aesthetically challenged'; et cetera ad nauseum. In former times, a person with A.D.D. would be known as a complete prick with the attention span of a flea... Secondly, A.D.D. in all probability did not exist until the late 20th Century. The constant entertainment offered to modern man is all of a relentlessly brief and shallow nature; it is no wonder that there are now people who have trouble remaining focused on something for more than five minutes. A.D.D. seems to occur mostly in the generations who have grown up with this constant entertainment. There are certainly no A.D.D. 'sufferers' amongst the baby-boomers or older age-groups, or at least they are a very well-kept secret... Incidentally, I play drums for a different band-fast'n'dirty punk-rock-called A.D.D. It was the band Attention Deficit Disorder rather than the fallacy Attention Deficit Disorder that was being thanked. The two other band members are great people, and Subterranean has played with A.D.D. twice. I thought it would be appropriate to give them our trollish regards.

3> What is love?
Funny that you should ask that! ZEV has suggested that Subterranean should cover incongruous songs rather than the standard Bathory/Celtic Frost/Sodom/Venom/Slayer (etc) covers that are played by every single other extreme metal band. The first song that came to his infernal brain was "What Is Love"-a totally execrable dance-tune performed by the pop band Haddaway. As for the question... 'Love' is something I have thought about at various times in my life, but hardly something I am widely experienced in. I think it's a word thrown around quite a bit by people when they don't actually mean it, and even in the wrong context (eg "I love that TV show" or "ooh, I love pumpkin gnocchi"). Emotionally, it could mean everything from 19th-century-style Romantic Love to intense and overpowering sexual lust. I really have no ideals in this area, nor any interest in the popular conception of the word. I don't think love is pink and fluffy, nor is it grand and insurmountable, nor is it utterly meaningless as some cynics would have you believe... it's just another human feeling. It seems to be different for everybody, but 99.9% of the population experiences it at some stage or another. For instance, some of the best love-poetry that I have ever read is that of Edgar Allan Poe-a man who was morbidly obsessed with premature interment.

4> You cover a Bathory song, "War". Describe Bathory in one word starting with 'Z'.
Zenithal. Bathory are the absolute high-point of black metal. They are in my opinion the ultimate band in a genre plagued by poor imitators.

5> You have your own [record] label, Necrotrash productions. Do you plan to only release your own works on this, or will you/have you "signed" others?
Necrotrash Productions is really just a way for me to put out tapes and avoid calling them 'demos'. My zine is ostensibly part of the Necrotrash catalogue as well. I don't really care if Subterranean is signed by a 'real' record label or not; I will release music regardless of outside interest. As for other bands, I'm thinking about putting out a tape by Melbourne metallions Dysprosium. However, lack of collateral means that Necrotrash will probably fade into obscurity without any releases! Perhaps if I can get some cash together, it will become something a bit more solid, but until that time probably not.

6> Do you think Hitler would be seen in a better light today if he'd given everybody jelly?
Maybe. It's equally possible that jelly would become completely taboo due to association with Nazism. Take, for instance, the swastika: a respectable, life-affirming symbol adopted by Hitler - and hence tainted by reputation. To walk around with a swastika on display is to be inevitably labelled as a Nazi or racist, when the opposite may in fact be the case. The same may have happened with jelly.

7> What do you think leather and spikes has to do with black/heavy metal?
I think leather 'n' spikes are very important in some styles of metal, but it is really something to be decided by each individual for themselves. The black metal genre, I believe, was founded on this corpsepaint/spikes image. But due to the thousands of bands that arose wearing the same uniform, the 'black metal look' ceased to be that interesting or threatening, and became even something of a farce. How can one differentiate between 100,000 bands who all wear spiked black leather, black-and-white facepaint, pentagrams, inverted crosses and have indecipherable logos? An image is to some degree important for all bands, but I think most are unable to come up with anything interesting or innovative-so they simply follow the precedent or imitate their idols. Subterranean have only performed twice before the public; both of these were fairly informal occasions so no thought as yet has been given to stage-show or visuals for the band. Our street-clothes seem sufficient, but perhaps a different sort of stage show for each gig would be interesting. Personally I would like Subterranean to perform only in natural settings, but the other members of the band would probably give you a different response.

8> What are the future plans for Subterranean?
At present, Subterranean seems to be in a poisoned slumber. Our present drummer is able to rehearse very rarely, so there may be a lineup change in the near future. Once this has been sorted out, I would like to practice for about six months and then record something, or start playing live. A little further down the track, at least on recordings, I want to integrate some different elements into the sound-piano and violin being the two primary instruments I would like to experiment with. Hopefully one day we will be able to make vast sums of money from our ugly and primitive music, but it seems unlikely. In the near future, I want to put out a run of <> tapes, as well as a compilation of a few early rehearsal tracks to be entitled <>. That's all I have planned at present. Although I would really like to do a split 7" with the legendary STRIBORG!

9> Is 2000 really a new Millennium, or just another year to add to the others?
I think it's just another year, though if it inspires people to better themselves and the world, it is a positive. Concepts of date and year are quite immaterial; all that is significant to me is the endless cycle of the seasons. Despite this, I did have quite an enjoyable time drinking to excess on New Year's Eve.

10> Anything else you would like to add? That old question.
Thankyou for the interview, James. It was most enjoyable. I wish you the best of luck with The Fall of Because.

If any readers are interested in contacting me to acquire a copy of <> (NECRO-002) or <> (NECRO-003), write to
Necrotrash Productions:
P.O. Box 117
LaTrobe University
Bundoora
VIC 3083
AUSTRALIA
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Interview 14/4/2000
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