My rebuttal to those who claim that Deplete Uranium is not equal to small Atomic bombs:
The sections of this article are:
1- My rebuttal to Steve A. Tomicheck's points.
2- Further proofs about the US insisting on harming the innocent civilians in Iraq.
The following is an email that I received from American Nuclear Engineer. My responds to his claims are preceded with "Osama-".
From: Steve_A_Tomichek@dom.com
To: truthspeaks@answering-christianity.com
Subject: Depleted Uranium
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:21:18 -0500
I am writing in response to your statements about the use of depleted
uranium bullets. This is not intended to justify or criticize the American
role in the gulf war, but to explain the facts behind, what depleted
uranium is, how it is used and the potential affects.
I have worked in the Nuclear industry for 24 years, I have held a reactor
operators license from the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission and have
received a Bachelors degree in Nuclear Engineering Technologies.
Osama- Dear Steve, I appreciate you
telling me about your academic background. I will make sure that I fully respect
your knowledge about this field, and to be very sensitive when commenting about your
scientific information that I don't know much about.
None of the information I am providing constitutes classified material and
is available to the general public.
Depleted uranium is a by-product of the processing of natural uranium into
reactor fuel. Using a mass spectrometer, the natural uranium (uranium
obtained from mining operations) is separated into U235 and U238. The U235
is then mixed back into the U238 to obtain a specific concentration, that
concentration being higher than the concentration in natural uranium. As a
result, large quantities of U238 are left over. This U238 is called
depleted uranium.
Until recently, a practical use for the growing stockpile of U238 was not
known. But U238 has chemical properties that make it useful for the
military. Uranium burns easily in air. Uranium is dense, which gives
bullets great penetrating power. As a result, depleted uranium is used as
armor shielding in the newest generation of tanks and in various bullets,
from large shells to small arms fire. Although the military does not
provide the information, I would suppose the "bunker busters bombs" may
employ depleted uranium.
What is important is to know that depleted uranium is not a nuclear weapon.
Depleted uranium will not explode like a nuclear weapon. Depleted uranium
is not "exactly small Atomic Bombs" Depleted uranium, although it does emit
small amounts of radiation, is not typically a significant radioactive
threat. Once evenly dispersed into the environment, depleted uranium will
be undectable compared to natural background radiation.
Osama- That's all fine. I agree with you that the Deplete Uranium Bullets will not explode like a small atomic bomb. You commented on and refuted my quote "exactly small Atomic Bombs", and you are right only if you compare a single Deplete Uranium Bullet to a single small Atomic Bomb.
What you're missing here Steve is that during the Persian Gulf
War the US had used a massive amount of Deplete Uranium weapons (i.e., bullets, bombs,
etc...). The combined amount of their Radioactivity had effected so many people, and
the pictures that I provided
about the Iraqi children being born in deformed bodies
were taken from an official web site. Plus I saw similar pictures to these on the
Al-Jazeera Arabic News Channel when they interviewed people and doctors in Iraq.
On the other hand, the chemical affects of rare earth elements has not been
studied in depth. I would be much more concerned with the chemical
properties of Uranium.
Osama- I think with my simple
information that the "chemical effects" of the Deplete Uranium caused for these
Iraqi children to be born with deformed bodies. Don't forget about the 8 Italian
soldiers that were effected with leukemia from the Deplete Uranium radiation after the war
on Yugoslavia.
Once the question of chemical affects is open, the question must be: What
process employed during the gulf war most probably negatively affected the
environment and consequently the population.
Of the processes that may have negative effects of the population, I would
have to top the list with the burning of the oil fields. If your looking
for the causes of birth defects in the population, consider starting there.
Another area to consider is the storage of chemical weapons. Having those
weapons at all is a recipe for disaster. (that goes for my country as
well) This is not intended to suggest the effects of the use of depleted
uranium should not be reviewed. It would not surprise me to learn the
results show that they contributed to Gulf War syndrome in US service men.
But once dispersed into the environment, the removal of U238 is both
technically impossible and unnecessary. Arguing for radioactive
decontamination of an entire country is just more political rhetoric from
Sadam.
Osama- It's easy to throw the the
possibility that Iraq's own Chemical weapons might have caused that. This is what
the Jews like to fool the world with. But let's use some common sense here:
Iraq used it's Chemical and Biological weapons during the Iraq-Iran war. Saddam
Hussein also used these weapons with the Kurds and Shias in Northern and Southern Iraq
respectively. Before the Persian Gulf war, we have not seen any case of children
being born with deformed bodies!
What does this tell you? It simply tells you that Iraq doesn't have the weapons that can produce such deformation. Why is it that it happened on a large scale after the Persian Gulf War, especially when knowing that the US did use the Deplete Uranium?
Personally, knowing that the US tolerated for Israel to build and own 200+ Atomic Bombs, and continuously tolerating Israel's advanced Nuclear programs in the Daimoona Nuclear Reactor in the Naqab desert in Israel, it wouldn't surprise me to know that the US secretly used high amount of percentage of high effective Deplete Uranium in their war against Iraq.
One would be either unjust or naive to suggest that it was the burning of the oil fields in Kuwait and the cause of the air pollution that caused for the Iraqi children to be born with deformed bodies, as you suggest above. Air pollution causes lung cancer like smoking cigarettes. It would never cause for children to be born with deformed bodies!
I know I promised I wouldn't inject political arguments into this but:
If it makes you feel better to blame the US for the Gulf War, so be it. But
don't expect to ever be finished with this. If I recall it was Iraq that
attacked first and it wasn't only the US that kicked Sadam's ass. Bottom
line; war sucks. People die in wars. War should be avoided at all costs.
Don't start a war unless you're absolutely sure there is no choice and be
sure you win. Any leader that looses a war, deserves the worst possible
punishment for the ills he has inflicted on his people. You say bin Laden
is your hero. The bombing of the world trade center did nothing but once
again waken a sleeping giant. The US would not be in Afghanistan, if it
were not for bin Laden. If you can forget that bin Laden killed 3000
innocent people then remember that bin Laden is responsible for waking the
sleeping giant and therefore the death and injury of not only his own
people but an entire country. Bin Laden deserves to suffer the same fate he
has inflicted on the people of Afghanistan. He will suffer that fate.
Osama- Every empire in history rose and fell. The Soviet Union that once scared the US to death is now worthless. The Muslims' problems is not waking up that "Sleeping Giant (i.e., the US)", or fighting the Soviets or any other Polytheist (such as Trinitarian and Idol Worshiping) Pagan power. Our problems is our corrupted dictators which are all supported by the Sleeping Giant's CIA. As long as people like Saddam Hussein determine our destinies and lead us, then we will always be weak and defeated.
Heroes like Osama bin Laden will never bring victory to the Muslims. They can only cause damage to the enemy, but they can never bring victories. You might disagree with me, but I personally see positive changes in the Muslim world. The dictators that rule us are under tremendous amount pressure from their god, the Sleeping Giant (i.e., the US), and from their people who might end up assassinating them.
When the Muslims get rid of their corrupted dictators and start building their own weapons and technologies, then we will see how much and for how long the Sleeping Giant's men can fight.
Don't ever under estimate the Muslims, because it was the Muslims who invented/discovered many of the laws for Physics and Astronomy, as well as invented Algebra (named after the Muslim Al-Jabir) and many parts of Trigonometry, and found cures to many diseases such as Chicken Pox and others.
My point is, it's easy for the Muslims to come back and to show your Sleeping Giant how small he is.
Most Americans (including the US government) do not agree with the actions
that Israel has taken. Neither do they agree with the actions of those who
are trying to destroy Israel. You talk peace then hide those who kill. If
you want to influence the US in your favor, prove to us that you are
talking in good faith. We don't believe you. As for Israel: the American
people will never accept any country that denies equal rights based upon
religious beliefs. This is the cornerstone of our nation. Until the Muslims
are equal partners in Israel there will never be peace in the Middle East.
And we're getting pissed off that you're both dragging us into the mess you
have created.
Osama- I am sorry that you feel you had
been dragged into this conflict. But according to Islam Steve, the Muslims will
always have to fight the Polytheist
(such as Trinitarian and Idol Worshiping) Pagan powers.
So, this conflict between Muslims and Jews and Christians siding up with the Jews
all the time (even though the Jews see
Jesus as the son of sin and Mary as a whore), and
fighting the Muslims to death for the Jews, and Pagans allying themselves with the Jews
and Christians against the Muslims is all Prophesied in Islam. This is nothing new.
Please visit The story of Gog and Magog and the Iron Gates, and End Times in the Noble Quran.
But if you read history very well, it was the Muslims who defeated the major super powers: Rome, Persia, India, the Coptics, etc... when Islam started with only 1 person.
A further response from Steve:
Subj: Re: www.answering-christianity.com
Date: 2/26/02 12:19:07 PM Central Standard Time
From: Steve_A_Tomichek@dom.com
To: ISLM4EVR1@aol.com
When someone experiences a loss there is a sequence of emotions they go through.
Anger is one of those emotions. When I wrote my first e-mail, I vented that
anger. Please excuse that outburst. The loss of 3000 innocent lives produces a
lot of emotion. I know those of you who live in the middle east are familiar with
such loss. I truly hope you see an end to the loss. I also hope you can move beyond
the blind , thoughtless rage such loss produces. In this forum, the only way I can
help give resolution to that rage is to maintain the dialog.
Osama- May Allah Almighty rest the souls of all innocent lives Steve. My heart goes out to all of the families who lost loved ones on the 9/11/2001 attack.
In response to your reply to my e-mail;
I don't believe Sadam unleashed all the C/B weapons at his disposal. Neither do I believe that the disposal methods employed after the war, were designed to protect the general public. They were designed to destroy the agents as quickly as possible.
I am not saying that the cause of Gulf War syndrome is Sadam's C/B weapons or the burning of the oil fields. I am also not saying that the cause is not depleted uranium. I am saying more research is needed. The US has a personnel stake in determining the cause of Gulf War Syndrome. Many of our fighting men returned from the gulf with medical problems. The US government owes it to those men to determine the cause of Gulf War Syndrome.
Osama- I hope the truth will come out someday. It's important to know Steve that the Iraqi doctors determined that those babies who were born with deformed bodies were so from the chemicals that their mothers breathed. Also, when several of those mothers were interviewed by the Al-Jazeerah News Channel, the mothers said that they smelled something really different, that they never smelled before. Please keep in mind that many of those mothers lived through the Iran-Iraq war before. So they should have some experience as to what smells like a dynamite's explosion for instance and what's not.
As I said, throughout the 8 years of the Iran-Iraq war, no cases of deformed babies were reported. So when it pops up on a large scale shortly after the Gulf war, it gives no other indication than the US had used nuclear weapons.
The US soldiers as you mentioned, and the 8 Italian soldiers in Europe and others clearly prove that the US used harmful nuclear weapons.
Your message gives the flavor that the US used depleted uranium in order to cause birth defects in Iraqi babies. What possible military value could such an action have? Certainly such a deception would require a mass conspiracy of the entire upper command of the US Army. I don't believe that's possible. On the other hand, the US military has a long history of refusing to accept that it makes mistakes, even if those mistakes were through ignorance and are not willful.
Osama- Well Steve, when the US pilot shoots at a target, he doesn't really know what's in that bomb or missile. I have no doubt in mind that the US pilots knew NOT about the severity of the weapons that they were dropping.
And just for a side note Steve, Muslims DO NOT hate Americans. Muslims do know that the American people are truly wonderful and innocent people. I have "A Tribute to America" article on my site.
What the Muslims know and the Americans do not know, is that the US is ruled and controlled by the Zionist Jews. Every time there is a conflict with Israel, the US is pushed to fight for it. It used to England and France at first, such as in 1956 war when they attacked Egypt for simply opposing Israel.
What you as an American also do not know Steve, is that Jews had Zionised Christianity. I am really amazed that Christians are always willing to fight to the death for the Jews against anyone, especially the Muslims, when the Jews themselves don't even believe in Jesus nor respect him.
I mean at least, we Muslims believe that Jesus is GOD Almighty's Messenger. Please visit The Blessed Jesus in Islam.
My reference to a sleeping giant, missed the point. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the officers on board the Japanese aircraft carriers were celebrating. Adm Yamoto, the designer of the attack, said that all they had done was wake a sleeping giant. Just as then, the US now feels that in order to survive it has to crush all terrorists. The US will not stop until it feels safe again. A lot of people are going to die. A lot of innocent people are going to be caught in the crossfire. For what? Please tell me what Osama ben Laden gained by enraging the US.
Osama- Yes I am aware of the "Sleeping Giant" title Steve. I watched a program about the Pearl Harbor attack on the History Channel. Believe me, the US will not be destroyed from an outside force. When Allah Almighty damns a nation, He damns them from within. There are many signs of the US falling: (1) Increasing amount of gangs and drugs; (2) Increasing amount of Sexually Transmitted Diseases and too open and sinful sexuality; (3) Increasing amount of demands on jobs and the shrinking in the economy of the US Corporations; (4) Too much divorces and too much social corruption, and I believe it is due to giving women too much liberty and putting too much demand on them and reducing the value of men. The last I read and heard, 60% of the American population are either divorced or in the process of getting divorced. That's is a very big percentage.
Don't get me wrong here, I am not a pro-Taliban Muslim. I do believe in education for women, and it is clearly mentioned in Islam. But the problem I see is that there is too much demand on women to work in the society. This had broken the family ties and had damaged the man's authority in the family. In other words, women don't care anymore about respecting men, because to them they can produce as much as men do. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE TOO MUCH DIVORCE HERE. Women can afford it, especially when they hit you hard with taking half of your money and enforcing child support payments on you if you have kids. I had two cases at work where this happened. In one of them, the guy doesn't even see his kids because his wife is in another state. He still pays child support though. Can you imagine the level of frustration the work mate I worked with had from not seeing his kids and not living a normal life?
The guy was paying 50% of his salary in child support and maintenance expenses to kids that he doesn't even see Steve. Do you think this American guy really cared about the 9/11 attack? I think not! It wouldn't surprise me if he even was happy about it.
It's similar to that American kid in Florida who dived his air plane into the Citi Bank building just few months after the 9/11 attack. I think his name was Richard if I recall. They found a note in his pocket saying that he "was sympathetic with Osama bin Laden".
Also the FBI suspects that the Anthrax attack on the US was done by "White Americans", and not Muslims. I heard on Fox News a while back that the army had some ingredients of the making of the Anthrax missing from their inventory. That is why the FBI did not rule out the *possibility* that the attack was done by local Americans.
My point is, 60% of your nation are experiencing dilemma of divorce and social destruction. I don't think the US should worry too much about outside attacks to be honest with you as much as they should worry about the destruction that is happening to its society and the lousy new generations (filled with many losers) that are coming up.
You end your reply to my e-mail by suggesting that there must be a war between Moslems and Christians. I am sorry but I will never accept that it is Gods will that men kill each other. There is a reason that those who have fought in wars call it hell. War is the work of the devil. You envision a utopia of freedom arising due to the violent actions of ben Laden. No doubt there will be change, war brings devastation and chaos (the gifts of the devil). What arises out of the ashes of that chaos is anyone's guess. But the road to the freedom you dream of, doesn't pass through war. War is the deviation from that path. The greatest good any leader can do is to be strong and intelligent enough to prevent war from starting and if war begins, to act decisively to end it as quickly as possible.
Osama- Well, even in the Bible Steve, if you read the book of Revelation, you would see it talking about the great battle of "Armageddon". Anyhow, the book of Revelation according to the Christian Theologians and Historians is man-made and corrupt.
Like you, I really wish no wars would happen, but GOD Almighty did create wars and He did prophecies in Islam that we, the Muslims, will have to fight the Polytheists from the Pagans and the Trinitarians along with the Zionists. The enemy's army will be called "Gog and Magog".
You imply that there must be a war with the US because there must be a war between Moslems and Polytheistists and Pagans. It is true that most Americans are Christians, but the US is not a Christian state (although some would like it to be). It is the basis of our beliefs (our constitution) that the state (the US) cannot and will not support any one faith but must support everyone's right to believe what they want. Excuse my ignorance of your religion, but how does such a state fit within your Holy Koran? I don't believe any such state existed when the rules of your religion were being written. But, with all respect, didn't your Prophet live in peace with those of other beliefs when they were willing to live in peace with him? I have no doubt that a state that only allows one religion will eventually go to war with its neighbor state that only allows a different religion, but that does not apply to the US.
Osama- You asked about how would a state like the US fit into Islam. Well, you have to understand Steve that there is no compulsion of religion in Islam. You are free to believe anything you want.
Muslims are forbidden from attacking others who do not attack them:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"
Fighting in the cause of GOD Almighty those who fight us is what "Jihad" is all about. I can't go to you and kill you just because you are non-Muslim. That is absolutely forbidden in Islam:
"...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...(Noble Quran 5:32)"
"Those who invoke not, with God, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day Of Judgement will be doubled To him, and he will dwell Therein in ignominy. (The Noble Quran, 25:68-69)"Jihad can only be declared when the Muslims are attacked. So to answer your question, the US is obviously a non-Islamic State, but that wouldn't justify attacking the US if the US didn't attack the Muslims first.
And even when war breaks out, if the enemy offers an honest peace, then we should accept it and end the blood shed:
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"
And if a treaty of peace was made, then we must honor that treaty to the end:
"Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If God had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then God Hath opened no way for you (to war against them). (The Noble Quran, 4:90)"
"How can there be a league, before God and His Apostle, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God doth love the righteous. (The Noble Quran, 9:7)"
Further proofs about the US insisting on harming the innocent civilians in Iraq:
The following is an email I received from brother Ehab Walt; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
From: ibi_756@hotmail.com (Ehab Walt)
To: ISLM4EVR1@AOL.COM
Subj: Iraq sanction/Uranium and some arguments to
put down
Date: 1/6/02 4:27:38 AM Central Standard Time
Assalamalaikum-warahmatullahi-wabarakatuhu
Brother Abdallah
Your site is really excellent for Da'wa purposes and I recommend it to my muslim friends.
I read about the skeptic who was arguing about how Uranium bombs dont affect much
and it could have been Iraq's own biological weapons. You put up a really good
rebuttal but you should add to that the CIA is the one who supplied Iraq with chemical and
biological weapons. CIA caused the two muslim countries to fight. Remember the
Iranian revolution? America was getting back at the Iranians by giving Iraq the
weapons. This is not something that is hidden. Saddam was America's best
friend before the gulf war.
In the initial strikes of the Gulf war America killed 150,000 people indiscriminate. America purposely was bombing civilians and civilian infrastructure. American planes bombed down electric plants and water purifying plants. The water still cannot be purified causing many diseases among children. When the electric plants were destroyed the hospitals could not store medicine. This has been documented by former Attorney General of USA Mr. Ramsey Clark who went to Iraq during the war when the bombs were still being dropped. He in fact made a video of the genocide of civilians in Iraq which was not aired on National television during the war. If you go to the site http://www.pcug.co.uk/~whip/usa/usd.htm you will see the documented crimes committed by the USA against the innocent civilians of Iraq.
Another point that I would like to mention is that America dropped bombs seven and a half times more than the nuclear bombs dropped in Japan. What people don't realize is that instead of using seven nuclear bombs America dropped 7000 smaller bombs(assuming that 1000bombs = 1 nuke) to equal the destruction caused by 7 nuclear bombs. The destruction is no different.
The issue is not over yet. America is leading the economic sanctions which are blocking medicines, chlorine to purify water, spare parts for equipments used to save lives and many other things. This is causing the deaths of 5000 children every month(If the sanctions are lift then only 300 children would die). So Iraq has been suffering WTC type of attacks every month for the last 11 years!!! So Americans please tell me: WHO IS GOING TO FIGHT THE WAR ON TERROR FOR THE CHILDREN OF IRAQ???
Dennis Halliday a UN Humanitarian Co-ordinator for Iraq quit in protest of the barbaric genocidal sanctions in 1998.
More information on the genocide in Iraq please go to http://www.mideastfacts.com/index_iraq.html
Jazakakallah Khair
May Allah bless you
Further readings:
Allies deliberately poisoned Iraq public water supply in Gulf War http://www.mideastfacts.com/iraq_wtr_09172000.html
US War Crimes During the Gulf War http://www.mideastfacts.com/boyle_gulfwar.html
AMERICAN OFFICIALS CHARGED FOR WAR CRIMES http://www.thewinds.org/1997/02/war_crimes.html
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The many breeding grounds of terrorism.
Holocaust of the Iraqi people from the US and UN.
Pictures of Iraqi Infants infected by the US Uranium Bombs or Deplete Uranium Bombs.
Atrocities done to Muslims section.
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