Introduction: We must first of all know that in Islam, no human being is perfect. Not even the four Caliphs! Allah Almighty said: "If God were to punish men according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily God has in His sight all His Servants. (The Noble Quran, 35:45)"
"If Allah were to punish Men for their wrongdoing, He would not leave, on the (earth), A single living creature: But He gives them respite For a stated Term: When their Term expires, They would not be able To delay (the punishment) For a single hour, just as They would not be able To anticipate it (for a single hour). (The Noble Quran, 16:61)"
In the above Noble Verses we clearly see Allah Almighty saying that He wouldn't leave a single person (NOT EVEN HIS PROPHETS) alive on earth if He were to punish us according to what we deserve.
So for those Muslims who believe in killing other Muslims and calling them "infidels" for the sake of any Caliph or person such as Aysha (she was our Prophet's wife. Some Muslim Shias call her a "whore"; may Allah Almighty punish them severely for this) will only lead you to the Ultimate Destruction and to the Great Torture of Hell, because non of the people whom you would kill other Muslims for was sinless!
Notice that Allah Almighty in Noble Verse 35:45 and similarly in 16:61 clearly says "He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature" AND NOT "He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature except a few of them" This clearly proves that Allah Almighty would kill ALL OF MANKIND.
These Noble Verses were revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, and there is no mention of even saving our beloved Prophet from Allah Almighty if Allah were to punish Mankind here on earth for their sins. So to tell me that the four Caliphs were perfect, sinless and infallible is a complete hoax!
The Muslim Shias also make a big mistake when they claim that their so called "12 Imams" or 12 Ministers are all perfect, sinless and infallible, because according to Noble Verses 35:45 and 16:61 above, NO HUMAN BEING that ever existed or will exist is!
Non of the four Caliphs was really perfect:
The sections of this article are:
- Some analysis on the four Caliphs.
- What is the ideal Caliph? Why am I so harsh on the four Caliphs?
- If they never became leaders, we would be ok today! I
regret saying it, but unfortunately
it is true.
- Don't be too picky, they're only humans!
- But still, why are you so harsh on the four Caliphs? They didn't tell the Muslims
to get divided!
- Rebuttals. My responses to several
of the emails that objected to this article.
- Conclusion. Please read my conclusion for it has a very important message.
To all Muslims: Please read the entire article carefully to fully and fairly understand my points before you decide to close up your mind and get offended by me, for I know well that this is a very controversial and hot topic for me to talk about, and my point of view in the title of this article is totally rejected by many Muslims today.
In this article we will see just how the political corruption that was caused after the natural death of our beloved Prophet, Muhammad peace be upon him, had caused the creation of the two major Muslim sects today: Sunnis and Shias and the other smaller sects.
I have received several emails from Muslim Shias trying to have me post articles that they wrote. These articles had some offensive material about the first 3 Caliphs of Islam, Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman. Although I highly love and respect all of my brothers and sisters in Islam regardless of which sect they belong to, but I am truly and honestly sick and tired of seeing Muslims differing with each others on man-made political issues when they all agree on the fundamentals of Islam and the validity of the Noble Quran.
In this article, we will see a small analysis that I gathered for every single Caliph, to see whether or not they truly deserved to take on the leadership after the death of our beloved Prophet.
Some analysis on the four Caliphs:
Below is a list of mistakes that the Caliphs made during their leaderships:
Abu Baker - He was the first Caliph. When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him died, Ali (the fourth Caliph) and some other Muslims went off to bury our beloved Prophet. During this time, Abu Baker didn't wait till the elections were proceeded. Ali was a candidate and he could've been elected. But because Ali wasn't around, Abu Baker got himself elected by the people without giving a fair shot to Ali.
It took Ali and his group from the Muslims 6 months to finally declare their support for Abu Baker, because Ali feared that a major division and corruption was about to be created among the Muslims. So he decided to declare his support to Abu Baker which calmed his supporters down.
Also, before Abu Baker's death, he wrote a will for Omar to inherit the leadership after him. This is not the Islamic way of establishing the leadership for the Islamic State. Allah Almighty clearly said in the Noble Quran:
"It is part of the Mercy of God that thou dost deal gently with them Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (Their faults), and ask for (God's) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment). Then, when thou hast Taken a decision put thy trust in God. For God loves those who put their trust (in Him). (The Noble Quran, 3:159)"
"Those who hearken to their Lord, and establish regular Prayer; who (conduct) their affairs by mutual Consultation; who spend out of what We bestow on them for Sustenance; (The Noble Quran, 42:38)"
So for Abu Baker to ignore the Muslims' points of views and to force the leadership of someone else upon the Muslims is completely wrong!
Abu Baker didn't have the entire Noble Quran memorized, nor the Sayings of our Prophet peace be upon him compiled and understood. As far as his Islamic knowledge, he was a normal person. Many of those who had the entire Noble Quran memorized at that time had better knowledge than him and were more qualified to give Islamic Verdicts, which is something very important in the Islamic State, because it is the president who issues the Islamic Verdicts that are based on either the Noble Quran or the Sayings of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him.
Omar - He was the second Caliph. He Didn't know much about how to take on the leadership. Muslims used to say during his time "If it wasn't for Ali, Omar would've been ruined." Also, Omar once forced himself into a house without permission because he heard one saying inappropriate things. He apparently wasn't aware of Allah Almighty's commands that say: "27. O ye believe! Enter not houses other than your own, until ye have asked permission and saluted those in them: that is best for you, in order that ye may heed (what is seemly).
28. If ye find no one in the house, enter not until permission is given to you: if ye are asked to go back, go back: That makes for greater purity for yourselves: and Allah Knows well all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 24:27-28)"
Another major problem with Omar was when his time was up for leadership, and the representatives of the Muslims wanted to vote for the next Caliph, they coincidentally voted evenly for Uthman and Ali (Uthman's votes had the same number as Ali's). So to resolve that issue, Omar brought his son and had him pick a vote. His son chose Uthman, and therefore, Uthman was elected.
This is very unacceptable in the sight of Allah Almighty, because the leadership of Islam is not to be dictated by people. Omar's son had absolutely no business what so ever in the leadership! Bringing him on to have him choose a historic Caliph is a great deal of corruption, because Omar's son was that important to pick a vote because of his father's position at that time, and not because Omar's son really deserved that role.
Also, like Abu Baker, Omar didn't have the entire Noble Quran memorized, nor the Sayings of our Prophet peace be upon him compiled and understood. As far as his Islamic knowledge, he was a normal person.
Uthman - He was the third Caliph. Unfortunately, because he was very wealthy, he used that to allow his family and relatives gain power in the government. He was the first Islamic leader to create the "Detectives" System. Like the detectives of today in the dictatorship countries, his detectives worked for him to spy on people and to stop anyone from growing in the State to cause a threat to him.
One of the Prophet's close companions called "Abu Dhar" opposed to Uthman's leadership. Uthman, therefore, ordered for Abu Dhar to be sent out to live in the desert and to die lonely there.
And like the above Caliphs, Uthman didn't have the entire Noble Quran memorized, nor the Sayings of our Prophet peace be upon him compiled and understood. As far as his Islamic knowledge, he was a normal person.
Ali - He was the fourth Caliph. Ali, however, didn't also have much knowledge about the Noble Quran. He once ordered for a gay male person to be burnt alive! He obviously wasn't aware of Allah Almighty's commands regarding this issue: "If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and mend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 4:16)" The punishment for the two men guilty of lewdness is 100 stripes. Please visit What is the punishment for Gays and Lesbians in Islam? to see the Quran's Noble Verses that prove it.
According to the Noble Quran, Ali had killed an innocent soul. Let us see what Allah Almighty says regarding killing innocent souls: "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...(The Noble Quran, 5:32)"
Also, Noble Verse 2:178 and other Noble Verses in the Noble Quran order for the death of those who commit murder without just cause.
Ali apparently got the idea of executing Gays from the Bible's Leviticus 20:13: "`If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
I wonder if Ali got the idea of "burning" people which has no existence what so ever directly or indirectly in the Noble Quran from the Bible's Leviticus 21:9: "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."
But then again, the Bible's laws have no place in Islam. Please visit:
Did Prophet Muhammad really recognize the Bible as an error-free book?
According to Islam, why did GOD Almighty allow for the Bible to get corrupted?
What is the ideal Caliph? Why am I so harsh on the four Caliphs?
Well, I know well that the minute I publish this article and my readers start reading it, they would probably lash back at me and I will probably lose much support because of this article. But brothers and sisters, the truth sometimes hurts, and as far as I am concerned, the truth must never be compromised; "...Truth stands out clear from error...(The Noble Quran, 2:256)". We have compromised the truth for so many long years and look at the results today. We have many sects in Islam, and the Sunnis and the Shias hate each others.
The Iran-Iraq 8-year war (Sunni and Shia war), had caused 1,000,000 lives to be lost. The current civil war in Afghanistan between Taliban (Sunnis) and Shah Masood (Shias) had caused and will cause for thousands of lives to be lost.
Who caused all of this? Who is responsible? Personally, I hold the four Caliphs responsible for all of this, because they seeked their worldly pleasure and fame and forgot that non of them really deserved to be the leader.
So what is the ideal Caliph then?
The ideal Caliph is one who would have the entire Noble Quran memorized, understood, and knows well the laws of Islam to be able to give Verdicts backed by 100% Islamic justice. In Islam, the Imam (Minister) of the Mosque must have the entire Noble Quran memorized and understood so he would be able to give the most proper and error free teachings for all Muslims, because he would have full understanding and maturity about all aspects of Islam and its dealings with life. Can you imagine the standards that must apply to the LEADER OF THE ENTIRE ISLAMIC STATE?
Unfortunately, the four Caliphs were all elected because of their political powers and influences, and not because of their Islamic knowledge. It is important to know, that in the True Islamic State, the elections that are not based on the Islamic standards are not Islamic! They are corruption!
Please know that my views about the four Caliphs are that they were great men with big hearts. They deserved high respects on the personal level, and yes, they were close companions of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him. But this alone does not qualify them for leadership as they thought.
Very Important Note: Otherwise, if we were to use their justification and corrupted standards, then this means if our Prophet's son, Ibrahim or Abraham, didn't die when he was young, then he is the one who should be the first Caliph, even if there were 1,000 or more other people who were experts and mature in the laws of Islam (like there were at the times of the four Caliphs), and Ibrahim didn't have anywhere near their knowledge.
Let us take an example, if I were a Roman Catholic and the Pope was my father, and my father knew everything about the Bible and the Catholic Encyclopedia, and I was just an ordinary average person in knowledge. Do you honestly think that it would be fair for me to inherit my father's position and be the next Pope?
In Islam, we have to live our lives according to the laws of the Noble Quran and the Sunna (Sayings) of our Prophet. Allah Almighty will have tougher punishment on the unjust leaders. If one gains leadership because of corrupted political influences, and not because he by far has the highest knowledge and maturity in Islam, then in the sight of Allah Almighty, he is a criminal, because it is him who would cause future social and political corruption and division in the State as we sadly see today in the Islamic world from Kingdoms and Dictatorships.
If they never became leaders, we would be ok today!
It is unfortunate to know that the divisions among the Muslims today are mainly because of the four Caliphs. Some Muslims believe in some of them, and some others don't believe in some of them. Let me give you few examples of what the Caliphs caused from corruption today:
1- The Iran-Iraq 8-year war that resulted in the death of 1 million Muslim lives was a war between the Muslim Sunnis and the Muslim Shias.
2- The current civil war in Afghanistan between Taliban (Sunni group) and Shah Masood (Shia group) had caused and still will cause thousands of Muslim lives to be lost. It is another sad example for this corruption.
3- The bomb plantation of some Shia Mosques in Pakistan by some Sunnis is another awful example of how Muslims are corrupted today.
Perhaps if non of the four Caliphs took leadership, then today we would have ONE, TRUE, POWERFUL, AND UNITED MUSLIM NATION, instead of bits and pieces of corrupted sects and countries here and there in the world. We certainly wouldn't have Sunnis and Shias today if non of them became leader.
Don't be too picky, they're only humans!
It was said to me before: Don't be too picky on them. They are not perfect. They are only humans.
My answer: That's exactly my point!! But you need not to tell me this. You need to tell it to the one million Iraqi and Iranian dead soldiers and civilians who got killed in their religious Sunni-Shia 8-year war conflict.
You need to tell it to Iran's former political and SPIRITUAL leader, Ayatollah Khumaini, who used to give little Iranian kids plastic keys and tell them that the keys were the keys of Paradise, and order them to go and fill themselves with bombs and suicidly blow themselves against the Iraqi soldiers and tanks.
You need to tell it to the current Sunnis and Shias in Afghanistan, who are killing each others in their current civil war.
You need to tell it to those Sunnis who consider all Shias as infidels and renegades and vise versa.
But still, why are you so harsh on the four Caliphs? They didn't tell the Muslims to get divided!
If you read the other articles that I mentioned them on my site (you can use the search engine on the main page to find them), you would see me adding something like "May Allah Almighty rest his soul" or "May Allah Almighty be pleased with him" after the name of anyone of them that I talk about.
But I am sick and tired of seeing thousands upon thousands of Muslims acting so stupid (sorry to say that), and stepping way out of the boundaries of Islam and driving their very own souls into hell by declaring wars on other Muslims. These wars are murders! And Allah Almighty's punishment for the murderer is the Great Torture of Hell Fire.
To the Sunnis, NO, none of the non-Sunni Muslims are infidels or renegades. The same message is for the Shia Muslims. Killing each others for the sake of any of the four Caliphs is absolutely prohibited in Islam. Don't let Satan conquer you with your stupidity and lead you with him into hell fire: "He (Satan) said: 'Because thou hast thrown me out of the way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on thy straight way.' (The Noble Quran, 7:16)"
I don't think that you believe that you belong to hell, do you? Then don't look down on other Muslims, and don't give yourself the authority that GOD Almighty will damn you for it.
Finally, I would like to conclude this article by giving the Saying of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him that I gave above:
Narrated Anas: "The Prophet said, 'Some of my companions will come to me at my Lake Fount, and after I recognize them, they will then be taken away from me, whereupon I will say, 'My companions!' Then it will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, To make the Heart Tender (Ar-Riqaq), Volume 8, Book 76, Number 584)"
I am not in anyway suggesting that the four Caliphs will burn in hell. But we all need to know very well, that not even Muhammad himself knows or can guarantee Paradise to anyone! It is only Allah Almighty who Knows, and certainly based on the Saying above, many of the companions of the Prophet will end up in hell. This could very well include any of the four Caliphs, or even any of the Prophet's wives! No one knows about anyone's ultimate destiny in this world. Only Allah Almighty Knows, because He is the Al-Wise, Al-Knowing and Most Just.
I ask Allah Almighty to grant all of His servants Paradise, and to be the Most Merciful in His Great Punishment, for He, the Almighty, declared upon Himself that His Mercy will always overpower His Anger:
Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, 'When Allah completed the creation, He wrote in His Book which is with Him on His Throne, 'My Mercy overpowers My Anger.' ' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Beginning of Creation, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 416)"
Dear Lord Allah, I seek refuge in You from Satan, and I seek your full and complete Mercy upon all of your creation, for many of them, dear Lord, know not and they cause to upset you unintentionally because of their ignorance in You, and not because they love to challenge You. For there is no one anywhere near Your Glorified and Great Power. I seek your Great Mercy and Love in all of Your Great Decisions. I seek that You would consider us humans as ignorant, worthless, dumb and blind creation who need Your Great Guidance and Love more than Punishment.
In your Great and Glorified Name we live and always Pray, Ameen.
Rebuttals:
Please be advised that the purpose of this section and the entire article as well is NOT to slander the four Caliphs. The soul purpose here is to prove to the reader that the four Caliphs are nothing but normal human beings like you and me and they made human errors/mistakes in the past. Therefore, killing other Muslims for their sake is totally prohibited in Islam and would lead you to the Ultimate Destruction.
Please also be advised that I decided to remove the brothers and sisters email addresses from this section for their protection. Someone had sent me a virus program that would delete my files if I opened it. The file name is "islam_history.doc.bat". As you see, the program name ended with a ".bat" file extension. ".bat" files are executable files, and once you double click on them or call them from a command prompt, then they would execute all of the code in them. The file had commands in it that would delete all of the files in my computer. I know this because I am a computer programmer and its easy for me to edit a file and know its contents.
For all of those losers who have zero tolerance to freedom of speech and choice, be aware that I have a CD-Writer at home, and every time I update my site with new files, I copy all of my files on a new CD and store it somewhere safe. It's shameful that out of all of my experience with Christians, and all of the battles that took place between me and them on my site and on Message Boards, I have NEVER, NOT EVEN ONCE, received any virus files from any of them. A loser of them kept sending me excessive emails before, and making up all kinds of lies about me on his site, and he happens to be a member of the Christian "Answering Islam" team. His name is Quennel Gale, and I have screen shots of his vandalistic actions at the Rebuttals and Expose the cheap lies of the Christian "Answering Islam" team section. I wouldn't have even bothered to expose his vandalistic actions and lies toward me if he didn't lie about me in his site. Making a scandal out of people is not something I like to do anyway. But the rest of the very many Christians that I debated and battled were all peaceful. So even if your stupid (sorry to say that) virus program destroys all of the files on my computer, be aware that I can restore them in a matter of 1 hour. It's a shame that with all of the battling that happened between me and Christians on this site, non of them sent me any virus program, and the minute I decided to write about something VERY CONTROVERSIAL in the Islamic history, I immediately received a virus program. Really, what a shame!!
From: "Syed Baqar ALI" <[.............]>
To: <truthspeaks@answering-christianity.com>
Subject: The four caliphs
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:43:18 +1000
Dear Brother
As salam o Alaekum
I think your treatment of the four caliphs is not fair. I will only speak of the last of the four, i.e. Ali. Your knowledge of Ali is obviously very poor. The number of Hadiths speaking highly of Ali are so numerous that your highly rude comment about him is totally unjustified.
The Quran has at least 300 Ayats in praise of Ali. Please read the impressions of non Muslims about him.
For example read the Arabic book ' Saut e Adalatay Insania' by a Lebanese Christian writer George Jordach. The English translation is also available 'The Voice of Human Justice'.
Please post this response.
Salaams
My response: It seems obvious to me, dear brother, that you are a Shia Muslim for you were mostly concerned with the fourth Caliph Ali. You said that there are at least 300 Noble Verses in the Noble Quran that praise Ali.
Well for one thing, the word or name "Ali" doesn't even exist in the Noble Quran. This is verified at this Quran Search Web Site: http://mama.stg.brown.edu/webs/quran_browser/pqeasy.shtml
I understand well that Allah Almighty spoke in few Noble Verses about the "People of the Prophet's Home", and how He the Almighty had cleaned their hearts from jealousy toward others. I also understand well that Ali was considered one of the members of the "People of the Prophet's Home". But Allah Almighty didn't speak about them in 300 Noble Verses, nor any number of Verses anywhere near this number.
Also, Ali having his heart clean from our worldly jealousy toward others truly makes him a wonderful human being that deserves nothing but respect from everyone. But this has nothing to do with his Islamic knowledge. This doesn't at all make Ali the most knowledgeable scholar in Islam nor does it qualify him to be the leader.
I am also aware of the Saying of our Prophet peace be upon him that said:
Sa'd b. Abi Waqqas reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) left 'Ali b. Abi Talib behind him (as he proceeded) to the expedition of Tabuk, whereupon he ('Ali) said: "Allah's Messenger, are you leaving me behind amongst women 4nd children? Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Aren't you satisfied with being unto me what Aaron was unto Moses but with this exception that there would be no prophet after me. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 31, The Book Pertaining to the Merits of the Companions (Allah Be Pleased With Them) of the Holy Prophet (May Peace Be Upon Him) (Kitab Al-Fada'il Al-Sahabah), Number 5914)"
In this Saying of our Prophet peace be upon him, we see that Ali was like a Prophet because of his clean heart and goodness. But he wasn't anything sacred in Islam. Ali being like a Prophet in his goodness doesn't at all mean that he should've been the Islamic leader because he by far was NOT the most knowledgeable person in Islam during that time.
Shias believe that the Islamic leadership must be inherited or passed down by the current president's decision. This dogma has no Islamic basis. It actually contradicts Allah Almighty's teachings about "democratic elections" in the Islamic State in the "Some Analysis about the four Caliphs" section above.
As we've also seen above, Ali made a fatal mistake by burning alive the gay person when the Noble Quran orders us to only flog gays 100 stripes.
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?molane=20mortojo?= <[............]>
To: truthspeaks@answering-christianity.com
Subject: THE 4 RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPHS
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:03:14 +0100 (BST)
Dear Brother Osama
I read with regret your opinion regarding the subject matter above. It is not my intention to counter & hit you back but let me just say that you may be mistaken to say the caliphs were somehow responsible for the unwarranted enmity between the sunnis & shiites. What type of thinking is this, I demand you?!!. And knowing their humble nature..surely they were not after fame and wealth!!
Please, I beseech you...stop this harsh treatment of the 4 caliphs that our Rasul loved so dearly, they... that even we can't have the greatness to stand under their shadows!!. Unlike you, I'm not an Arab, I can't speak Arabic but I know I worship Almighty Allah and Muhammad is Rasullallah and the Qur'an is my guidance. What is so great being a sunni or a shite or belonging to this madzhab or that madzhab if you're not a MUSLIM....one that loves another muslim...one that uphold ISLAM for ALLAH and HIS MESSENGER!. Why must there be the term "Sunni" & "Shia" in the first place...and why must there be enmity between them?!. Enmity is for the warmongers...ISLAM is PEACE.
The 4 Rightly Guided Caliphs, may the Grace of Allah be upon them, hold no responsibility for the calamity that befall the Islamic community where it be in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere in the world!. Those killings and rivalries are started by them who deviate from the guidance of Allah and not by the legacy of the 4 Caliphs!. Are you prepared to face Allah with an answer for your charge against them, whom Rasullallah loved, in the Day of Judgement??!.
May Allah have mercy upon us all!.
Wassalaam....
My response: For one thing my dear brother, I am not slandering the four Caliphs, but only pointing out some of their human mistakes that they made to prove the point that they are not anything holy in Islam, and it is wrong to kill other Muslims for their sake.
You made the same fatal mistake that most Muslims today do by saying "that even we can't have the greatness to stand under their shadows!!." With all respect for you brother, but this false dogma again has no Islamic basis what so ever. In Islam, anyone can be better or can excel over other Muslim brethrens in his goodness.
In other words, you and I can be in the sight of Allah Almighty better than Abu Baker (the first Caliph) for instance. There is absolutely no Noble Verse in the Noble Quran that says that no one can be better than the religious leader. Read the following from the Noble Quran:
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"
Your whole dogma belief (with all due respect for you brother) that had corrupted the Muslims' ideology and philosophy comes originally from the Bible's New Testament:
"The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment. (From the NIV Bible, 1 Corinthians 2:15)"
But then again, the Bible's laws have no place in Islam:
Did Prophet Muhammad really recognize the Bible as an error-free book?
According to Islam, why did GOD Almighty allow for the Bible to get corrupted?
A rebuttal to my response:
From: [............]
To: truthspeaks@answering-christianity.com
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:41:13 EDT
Assalamu Alaikum!
You wrote:
>>As for the Prophet peace be upon him saying that the Muslims at his time are better than the Muslims that will ever come, I'd like to see this Saying for myself to believe it, because it clearly contradicts the Noble Quran in 49:13 above.<<
There are plenty more of this type of hadith, here is one:
Sahih Bukhari
Volume 3, Book 48, Number 820:
Narrated Abdullah: The Prophet said, "The people of my
generation are the best, then those who follow them, and then whose who follow the latter.
After that there will come some people whose witness will go ahead of their oaths,
and their oaths will go ahead of their witness." Ibrahim (a sub-narrator) said,
"We used to be beaten for taking oaths by saying, 'I bear witness by the Name of
Allah or by the Covenant of Allah."
A good hadith word search can be found at:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/048.sbt.html#003
048.819
www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
My response: Well, with all due respect to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, but in Islam, there is a big difference between his personal opinions and the direct commands that he was inspired from Allah Almighty. For instance, when our beloved Prophet said that the human body consists of 360 joints, this was NOT a personal opinion of his, but a fact that was inspired by Allah Almighty that was scientifically proven to be correct in our age today. Please read the article.
But Muhammad has no authority to speak on behalf of Allah Almighty and to pass down a judgment upon people. He can't say to me (whom I wasn't even born yet) that I will always be lesser than his companions.
Our Prophet peace be upon him had nullified his own Saying with a Saying that he later said: Narrated Anas: "The Prophet said, 'Some of my companions will come to me at my Lake Fount, and after I recognize them, they will then be taken away from me, whereupon I will say, 'My companions!' Then it will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, To make the Heart Tender (Ar-Riqaq), Volume 8, Book 76, Number 584)"
Here we clearly see that some of the people whom Muhammad thought were better than you and me will actually end up in HELL FIRE, because he will be shocked and will say "My companions!". Only Allah Almighty Knows who is better than who. He said it very clearly in the Noble Quran:
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"
So the point is that Muhammad's peace be upon opinions have absolutely no place in Islam, and don't mean anything to me personally, because I follow Muhammad peace be upon him the Prophet, not Muhammad the human.
Beside, according to Allah Almighty, we are all humans and we are all sinful! No one is perfect and sinless. Not even the Prophets! Allah Almighty said: "If God were to punish men according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily God has in His sight all His Servants. (The Noble Quran, 35:45)"
"If Allah were to punish Men for their wrongdoing, He would not leave, on the (earth), A single living creature: But He gives them respite For a stated Term: When their Term expires, They would not be able To delay (the punishment) For a single hour, just as They would not be able To anticipate it (for a single hour). (The Noble Quran, 16:61)"
So, to tell me that the people before me were better than me when Allah Almighty Would wipe them out of the face of the earth if He were to punish them for their sins is something that has NO ISLAMIC BASIS.
From: "ruman RMN" <[............]>
To: <truthspeaks@answering-christianity.com>
Subject: You know better??? IQRA
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:13:33 +0100
Assalamualikum bro, I wonder to what extent I can actually say it to U.
So you know better than the companions of the prophet(sas) so if they didn't have compiled hadith they didn't know what they were talking about?? so you after having read the compiled hadith don't understand the hadiths about Abu Bakr (ra) Imaan compared with the rest of the ummah was greater by himself that he was mentioned in the Quran that the Holy prophet asked for him to LEAD the prayer when he was sick? What are your sources for the history You paint, Kuffar orientalists? AT least reply and tell me the sources please.
The sunni shia debate is not really about the caliphs anymore!!!!!!! it is about shias they belief in that part of quran was fabricated that Ayesha (ra) cursed that they supplicate to other than Allah. But not all shias U understand it is those shia fanatics that do this crazy stuff. when we had Islamic state Shias were talked to but some obviously don't want to listen. and anyway the order of caliphs is history only the shia bring it up. Bro your ignorance may put u in danger. Don't say things without research. From scholars, at least get some different opinions other than the kuffar. Can I ask why U think
people of now are better than people of Rasools(sas) time when he said that the best of people were his time then the generation following than the generation following.
wassallam, ruman
ps WHO TRANSMITTED THE HADITH TO US?!?!
My response: Brother, I am not trying to prove that I know more or less than the four Caliphs or any human being in this world. As for the Noble Quran, no, there is no mention for Abu Baker must take the leadership after our Prophet peace be upon him. In fact, non of the four Caliphs' names exist in the Noble Quran. This is again verified at this Quran Search Web Site: http://mama.stg.brown.edu/webs/quran_browser/pqeasy.shtml
As for my sources, they all come from stories that I learned that exist in the Sunni and Shia books.
You said: "The sunni shia debate is not really about the caliphs anymore!!!!!!! it is about shias they belif in that part of quran was fabricated..." This is a false misunderstanding about most Shias. The Shias have around 32 sects or so. Every Shia that I debated or spoke to agreed with me on the entire Noble Quran Word for Word.
If there are any Shias out there who don't believe in the entire Noble Quran, then it would be few sects out of the 32. You can't judge all Shias from small sects.
You said: "Can I ask why U think people of now are better than people of Rasools(sas) time when he said that the best of people were his time then the generation following than the generation following." I don't think that Muslim is better than any Muslim except in righteousness:
"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other. Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted. (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"
As for the Prophet peace be upon him saying that the Muslims at his time are better than the Muslims that will ever come, I'd like to see this Saying for myself to believe it, because it clearly contradicts the Noble Quran in 49:13 above.
You said: "ps WHO TRANSMITTED THE HADITH TO US?!?!" The Muslims did. Many of the Companions of our Prophet peace be upon him did.
From: [...........]
To: truthspeaks@answering-christianity.com
Subject: URGENT
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:59:51 EDT
Assalamu alikum
you were really respected by me and many others until you posted your article that talks about the four caliphs . you really don't understand why Sunnis say that Shia'as are infidels . If someone said, todays quran is not completely the word of god, would you name him a muslim ??? its not because of the four caliphs , its because of many other things. to know more about Muslims and shia'a you can visit the forums of www.islah.org and see yourself Sunni-shiaa dialuge and participate as well .
I hope we can see your posts there .
assalamu alikum
My response: Well, if gaining respect from people requires me to compromise what I believe is right, then I don't want that respect from anyone. You can sit down and close your eyes and ears and refuse to learn, or you can read and learn what people have to offer from truth and wisdom.
Allah Almighty said: "....Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know? It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition. (The Noble Quran, 39:9)"
With all due respect for you brother, but you are one example of the dilemma that I am talking about regarding the Sunni-Shia conflict. You consider Shias as infidels because of your misunderstanding about them. As I mentioned above, only few of them don't agree on the entire Noble Quran.
Every Shia that I debated or talked to agreed 100% with me about the entire Noble Quran. I don't know where you're getting this false and tragic misunderstanding from about them.
I visited www.islah.org that you recommended, and it is all in Arabic. I don't see any point in continuing to go there since I didn't see any valid points to support your claims. Also, this site is not useful for most of my readers anyway, because most of them are non-Arabic Muslims.
Conclusion:
As much as I sounded harsh with my correct facts about the four Caliphs, as much as I don't have anything personal against them. The point that I am trying to make here in this article is that Muslims must be outrageously ridiculous for dividing themselves and fighting each others for the sake of any Caliph, for neither one of them was really perfect.
I must remind you of what Allah Almighty said about all human beings, including the four Caliphs:
"If God were to punish men according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily God has in His sight all His Servants. (The Noble Quran, 35:45)"
"If Allah were to punish Men for their wrongdoing, He would not leave, on the (earth), A single living creature: But He gives them respite For a stated Term: When their Term expires, They would not be able To delay (the punishment) For a single hour, just as They would not be able To anticipate it (for a single hour). (The Noble Quran, 16:61)"
The main point here in this article is not to prove whether Osama Abdallah is right on exposing the faults of the four Caliphs during their leaderships or not. No my brothers and sisters, the main point here is for YOU to know, whether you are Sunni or Shia or what ever gibberish nonsense you belong to, that belonging to any Muslim sect is absolutely sinful (haram), and certainly without a doubt killing or even fighting other Muslims for the sake of your bogus sect is also sinful (haram) and will lead you to the Ultimate Destruction of Hell.
What is the definition of Democracy in Islam? How does Islam practice Democracy? See how the four Caliphs contradicted each others in the leadership.
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