Jesus saying "I am":
From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
It is claimed that Jesus used the words, "I am", and since these same words were used by God to describe Himself to the people in the Old Testament, Jesus was claiming to be God. John 8:58, is presented to back this claim. In the verse, Jesus says: " Before Abraham was I am. (John 8:58)" Now, if Jesus existed before Abraham did, that might be a remarkable thing, but does that prove that he was God?
How many people existed before Abraham? The Bible presents Jeremiah as being a prophet before he was conceived in his mother's womb; "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 1:5)" Yet no one says that his pre-human existence qualifies him for deity. In Exodus chapter 3, God allegedly says: "I am what I am." Long before the time of Jesus, there existed a Greek translation of the Old Testament called the Septuagint. The key word, "I am," in Exodus which is used by Christians to prove the deity of Jesus is translated as "HO ON." However, when Jesus uses the word in John 8:58 the Greek of the "I am," is EGO EIMI. If Jesus wanted to tell the Jews that he was claiming to be God he should have at least remained consistent in the use of words or the whole point is lost. How many people in that age would have said "I am," in answer to questions in everyday life. Billions. Are they all gods? Of course not !.
From www.jewsforjudaism.com
Question: Is the author of the Gospel of John claiming that Jesus
is
part of a tri-unity god when he has Jesus say, "before Abraham came into
being, I am" (John 8:58)?
Answer: John 8:56-58 states: "'Abraham your father rejoiced to see my
day; and he saw it, and was glad.' The Jews therefore said to him: 'You
are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?' Jesus said to
them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham came into being, I
am.'"
Trinitarians argue that the Greek words ego eimi ("I am"), allegedly
spoken by Jesus (John 8:58), indicate that Jesus is God (see also John
8:24, 28). They arrive at their contention by connecting the phrase "I
am" with the words spoken by God in Exodus 3:14 and often translated: "I
AM THAT I AM . . . . Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: I AM
has sent me to you." However, the literal and proper translation of this
verse is: I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE. . . . Thus you shall say to the
children of Israel: I WILL BE has sent me to you."
Since the author of the Gospel of John utilized the Greek Septuagint
translation of the Bible in his writings, it cannot be assumed that
John's Jesus is referring to the words in Exodus 3:14. Although Jesus
actually spoke in Hebrew or Aramaic, not Greek, John recorded Jesus'
alleged words in Greek. Ego eimi ("I am"), used by John's Jesus, is not
the same as ho on ("The Being, The One Who Is"), which is used in the
Septuagint's rendering of Exodus 3:14: "And God spoke to Moses, saying,
I am THE BEING; and He said, Thus you shall say to the children of
Israel: THE BEING has sent me to you." Even though ho on appears in the
Gospel of John, it is never used as a title or name or exclusively as a
reference to Jesus. In the Book of Revelation, also credited to John by
Christian commentators, ho on appears five times (Revelation 1:4, 8;
4:8; 11:17; 16:5). Significantly, in each instance, it is used as a
title or designation applied to God, not Jesus. Thus: "John to the seven
churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is [ho
on] and who was and who is to come; and from the seven spirits who are
before His throne" (Revelation 1:4). That this verse refers to God and
not Jesus is seen from the following verse, which continues the greeting
by now including Jesus as one of those sending greetings. Hence, John
says, in verses 4 and 5, that greetings are sent by God, the seven
spirits, and Jesus.
In verse 8, John writes: "'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord
God, 'who is [ho on] and who was and who is to come, the Almighty'"
(Revelation 1:8). This verse also speaks of God, not Jesus. In
Revelation 4:8, ho on is applied to "the Lord God, the Almighty," not
Jesus, who, as the "Lamb" referred to in Revelation 5:6-7, comes to God,
who is sitting on His throne. That they are two separate entities is
seen from Revelation 5:13: "To the one sitting on the throne, and to the
Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever." In
addition, ho on is applied to the "Lord God, the Almighty," not Jesus,
in Revelation 11:17 and Revelation 16:5. That ho on in Revelation 16:5
refers to God and not Jesus can be seen from verse 7, which, referring
to the subject of verses 5 and 6, states: "And I heard the altar saying:
'Yes, Lord God, the Almighty, true and righteous are Your judgments.'"
These are further indications that ho on and ego eimi are not used as
synonymous terms by John.
In John 8:56-58, John is expounding his belief that Jesus had a prehuman
existence as an angelic being in heaven. John's Jesus is proclaiming
here that this prehuman existence began before Abraham was born: "Before
Abraham came into being, I am." The fact of the matter is that the text
does not at all indicate how long Jesus supposedly lived before Abraham.
In no honest way can John's statement be taken to identify Jesus as God.
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