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| From: Turd
Ferguson | Posted: 4/21/2002 9:59:05 PM | Message
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That just doesn't work with secret
boards.
And of course I don't like it, that's why I'm against
it. I thought that's what this topic was about, not arguing over
what to do if it happens.
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| From: Savok
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:02:20 PM | Message
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No it doesn't work secret boards, you can only
salvage so much.
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| From: CJayC
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:24:48 PM | Message
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For every one "old" topic that's worth keeping
and has good information, I can show you five that are bumps,
counts, or private conversations. This is a rule that could have
been in place from the beginning to help the server out, but didn't
become an issue without so many people keep dead topics alive by
constantly bumping them.
Here's the deal: You convince
everyone on the boards who's doing it to stop bumping the crap
topics that truly need to die, and I won't have to close all of them
automatically.
...
The Karma system works.
Although the initial implementation sucked pretty badly, the current
one is far better than I had hoped. The number of bannings and even
moderations in general compared to the number of active users has
dropped dramatically, as people are starting to figure out that
there are consequences to their actions. The system rewards regular
users, punishes bad ones, and ignores those who don't visit. I've
yet to hear a good reason to get rid of it, or a reasonable way to
adjust it to make everyone happy.
...
I got much more
positive feedback about the board manager than not.
...
The Preview Message screen is there because there
is no "Edit Message" functionality (and that's not there for reasons
I've explained so many times in the past it's not even funny). I
don't get paid by the click or the banner view. In fact, almost
nobody does anymore.
...
And finally, if you're
unsatisfied with GameFAQs, I'd be more than happy to give you a full
refund for the money you've sent in.
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| From: Fencedude
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:29:44 PM | Message
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Thanks for the new quote
Ceej!
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| From: TerranRedneckX
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:30:08 PM | Message
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Yeah... the old Karma system did suck... And Im
sure the new one keeps all the ducks all lined up... I have no
complaints with the site at all aside from the ad banner and preview
message feature... And I thought you said you could remove the
message preview though?
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Whats this Karma Stuff every1 is
talking about im new to the boards but certainly not to
Starcraft
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| From: PaperThick
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:30:32 PM | Message
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The cheque is in the mail.
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P a p e r T h i c k ¤ •
"I rose, I roared, I will,
I am." |
| From: blue
calx | Posted: 4/21/2002 10:30:59 PM | Message
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flip15: you get what you pay for. It's free. And
free things are, more often than not, pieces of crap.
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| From: Savok
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:32:50 PM | Message
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How about moderators close the topics that are
useless? You should be able to make a list of very old topics
(search by date on the database?) on the Mod board, then just have
them go through each one to decide whether or not to close
it.
I realize that is an enormous amount of work, but
if the mods are willing to do that...
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| From: Kildread2
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:35:47 PM | Message
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Again, I'm going to use a previous
quote...
"Funny how it's always the same jokers who complain
about how things are run here while the majority of posters can post
without feeling
inhibited."
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Kildread2-... |
| From: chaos
knight | Posted: 4/21/2002 10:37:43 PM | Message
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*watches hell freeze over as he agrees with flip
for once*
Though those old topics may have senseless bumping
in them, they usually contain a large archive of useful information
near the beginning at least to old and new users alike. Plus, there
is some nostalgic value to them for some users.
As for making
the boards faster, most users don't seem to want to keep making
sacrifices for a couple seconds faster loading time. Heck, just look
at that new topic on MBA and the petition that it gave birth to. Few
people complain about the slowness of GameFAQs now as it is so why
make unnecessary changes?
I actually do think that the purge
will be sped up to being daily for most boards at this
rate...
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Chaos Knight-Cerebral Insomniac of the CoS
"I'm
sueing God for making me stupid!" Joel, Conan O' Brian |
| From: GrandCross
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:37:48 PM | Message
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I still don't like karma, though.
Yes,
I'm aware that it gets people to visit the GameFAQs more often, but
it's how people act about it that really piss me off...
"Oh,
he doesn't have a lot of karma, therefore we must disagree to all
his ideals and opinions and try to ignore him."
I really hate
to admit it, but "The more karma the better"...ugh. It shouldn't be
that way.
Although it isn't anything you can change,
CJay...
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love..." - Hazuki-Sensei, Shenmue |
| From: ffixeiko
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:43:15 PM | Message
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How do you judge what is useless? That
would be horrendously subjective not to mention labor
intensive.
Something Ive always wondered about this board
system is why the posts are all linked together.
The spouse
and I run a tiny board -- modified PHPBB board system (I think -- Im
not the techy of the family) and when we purge the old posts, the
topic stays partially intact if there are more recent posts. So, for
example, if posts 1-20 are three months old and posts 21-60 are less
than three montsh old, posts 1-20 get deleted while posts 21-60
stay. Or at least, thats how I think it works if I understood his
explaination correctly.
It would be less of a shock to the
system if somehow these older threads could stay partially intact,
deleting out the older posts that are causing the problems without
eliminating the newer posts, but that isnt the way the board is set
up. And its not a gripe -- not at all. I know, as does everyone
here, that if I dont like it, I can go elsewhere.
Im just
going to start archiving old theads I want to keep elsewhere, much
as ColdFusion does now on nostalgia project
site.
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| From: superaielman
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:43:21 PM | Message
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*watches as hell freezes over solid, and the
devil goes ice skating*
I agree with both turd, and flip.
<about the 6 month rule>
"For every one "old" topic that's
worth keeping and has good information, I can show you five that are
bumps, counts, or private conversations."
Are you talking about
on the "on topic" boards, or Secret Boards?
While somehow I doubt
you give a ****, this will kill SBhunting, as turd pointed
out.
why bother with it, if it will just get closed in 6 months?
<not a long time, by Secret Board standards>
Also, as for
the 'bumped' topics, people might bump them, so they have a wealth
of info to read, without making new topics?
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| From: CJayC
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:48:11 PM | Message
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And, just for the record, I do cave in public
pressure sometimes, at least when they have intelligent arguments to
counter my own.
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| From: superaielman
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:48:50 PM | Message
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| From: CJayC
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:49:41 PM | Message
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To clarify: I'm holding off on the 180-day topic
closure for now. I've been reading a bit more about it in other
topics, as well as through e-mail, and I guess that those old topics
could be good for the boards as a whole, if not for the server
itself.
Bah.
Well, still upping the purge
schedule.
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| From: Dr
Casey | Posted: 4/21/2002 10:49:46 PM | Message
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Is it just me, or are the boards and the site
going fast enough already?
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| From: Lazyhound
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:51:05 PM | Message
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| How does the purge schedule work, anyhow?
I don't quite get it... |
| From: chaos
knight | Posted: 4/21/2002 10:53:41 PM | Message
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Thank you. That was the only point in which I
agreed though. Don't see a problem with karma and everything
else.
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"I'm
sueing God for making me stupid!" Joel, Conan O' Brian |
| From: Dr
Casey | Posted: 4/21/2002 10:54:27 PM | Message
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Woah...thanks, Ceej! =)
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| From: TerranRedneckX
| Posted: 4/21/2002 10:57:03 PM | Message
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See... the squeaky wheel gets the oil... and if
you ***** enough you always get what you want...
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Whats
this Karma Stuff every1 is talking about im new to the boards but
certainly not to Starcraft
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| From: DarkCobra
| Posted: 4/21/2002 11:01:15 PM | Message
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I dunno, I liked the karma system when it first
came out... getting 75 karma in one day was pretty nice :) :)
:)
Heh.
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| From: DarkCobra
| Posted: 4/21/2002 11:02:48 PM | Message
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I don't mind the banners much. As long as it's
no popups or shock the monkey type deals I don't mind them at
all...
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| From: TerranRedneckX
| Posted: 4/21/2002 11:05:58 PM | Message
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How did you get so much Karma on day one DC? I
made up a trick with 2 accounts on secret boards... And another one
where I just went off topic hunting and killed so many secret
boards... I didnt make 75 in one day but I was going at a good
clip...
I have the ad banners disabled so it is just a big
black box... I guess I could replace that with something....
And how does Ceej make money off the ad banners if it aint
on a # of views basis?
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Whats this Karma Stuff every1 is
talking about im new to the boards but certainly not to
Starcraft
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| From: Lazyhound
| Posted: 4/21/2002 11:07:09 PM | Message
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| Click-throughs? |
| From: GrandCross
| Posted: 4/21/2002 11:07:49 PM | Message
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And, just for the record, I do cave in public
pressure sometimes, at least when they have intelligent arguments to
counter my own.
What about that one time where KoRnered
Munky said that he knew your
pass?
https://www.angelfire.com/wa3/coldfusion7777/funnycjayc1.htm
Ok,
so it isn't an argument...but...uhh...yeah. |
| From: TerranRedneckX
| Posted: 4/21/2002 11:10:10 PM | Message
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Nah... he said it ain't on a click thru basis
either...
And look at the level of intelligence the users
have shown in this topic since Ceej popped up... now if that kind of
coherance was localized in CE and not just this topic... CE would be
back on the mend.
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Whats this Karma Stuff every1 is talking
about im new to the boards but certainly not to Starcraft
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| From: GrandCross
| Posted: 4/21/2002 11:13:06 PM | Message
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And look at the level of intelligence the
users have shown in this topic since Ceej popped
up...
Terran, for almost anything you mention, I'd have
to agree.
That counts me as well though. x_x |
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