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Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: ODBC Updated - DDBs now won't open!!!



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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Tony (and anyone else who may be able to 
help),</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sorry. I was more than a little flustered on Friday and forgot 
a few details.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I am running 99SE with SP5 installed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I know about and have run the DDB repair function to no avail. 
(Yes there are interesting things lurking behind many of these standard menus 
:)) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Protel gives me a little message indicating that the DDB was 
successfully repaired but the problem with opening remains.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I have not seen any message 
relating to the read-only status of a DDB.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I just now have tried to create a new DDB from scratch as you 
suggest.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Protel throws up an Access Violation when I try to import a 
PCB document into it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <EM>Access Violation at 
address 00447531 in Module &quot;Client99SE.EXE&quot;</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><EM>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Exception occurred in CreateNewDocument</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>If I reply with Ignore the system continues for 
a little while before it eventually spits the dummy and pops up the blue screen 
of death. I have repeated this a couple of times - it does not seem to be a 
one-off crash.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I'd be happy to get the system back to the way 
it was before I started fiddling - Gerber errors and all!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Has anyone any ideas - should I reinstal Win98 or Protel (or 
both!)??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Yours (with the boss breathing down his 
neck),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>LINDEN DOYLE<BR>Product Development 
Engineer<BR>Zener Electric Pty Ltd</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><A 
href="mailto:linden@zener.net">linden@zener.net</A><BR>Ph: +61 2 9795 
3600<BR>Fax: +61 2 9795 3611</FONT></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Tony Karavidas &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:tony@encoreelectronics.com">tony@encoreelectronics.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>Multiple recipients of list proteledausers &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:proteledausers@techservinc.com">proteledausers@techservinc..com</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Monday, 11 September 2000 06:33<BR><B>Subject: </B>RE: [PROTEL EDA 
    USERS]: ODBC Updated - DDBs now won't open!!!<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>You didn't say which SP you have, but some prior version cannot open 
    read-only versions of a DDB. The result is the message you see. SP5, can 
    open them but it warns you that the file is read only. I learned about this 
    after checking stuff into sourcesafe and leaving a read-only version on my 
    drive.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>If 
    you generate a new empty ddb, can you save it, and then re-open it 
    successfully? You might also want to try &quot;repairing&quot; a ddb 
    file.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>It 
    can be found under the 'down arrow' next to the file menu. 
    </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>Protel, please change the 'down arrow'&nbsp; to some name so we can 
    &quot;talk&quot; about it properly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2>Tony</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=791200421-08092000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
    size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir = ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
        size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> TSListServer 
        [mailto:owner-proteledausers@techservinc.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Linden 
        Doyle<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
        Multiple recipients of list proteledausers<BR><B>Subject:</B> [PROTEL 
        EDA USERS]: ODBC Updated - DDBs now won't open!!!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>HHHHEEEELLLLPPPP!!!!</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Why do these things happen when you are trying to get 
        work out urgently?</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>I had a problem this morning when generating Gerbers 
        for a new design. Protel threw up an ODBC error while generating the 
        Gerber for the Top Overlay. After referring back to a series of posts in 
        June, I downloaded an update to the ODBC drivers.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>After installing this update I rebooted the system and 
        restarted Protel. It now refuses to open my DDBs saying instead that the 
        information requested will have to be imported into a new DDB. If I say 
        OK it generates a new EMPTY DDB.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>My files are stored in Access format. The one DDB that 
        I have stored in Windows File System format (experimenting with the 
        format) opens correctly.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>System is Celeron 433 + Win98</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Any help would be greatly appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks in Advance,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>LINDEN DOYLE<BR>Product Development Engineer<BR>Zener 
        Electric Pty Ltd</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2><A 
        href="mailto:linden@zener.net">linden@zener.net</A><BR>Ph: +61 2 9795 
        3600<BR>Fax: +61 2 9795 
3611</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>




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