FAQs

The logo is supposed to be "Analog+" spelled on an oscilloscope in one pass. Since there is only one line to draw with, and the line can't go backwards, I "patched" the 'a', 'o' and 'g' with virtual ductape, those gray lines. The background is supposed to be the dull black of an old oscilloscope. I put more work in thinking it up that actually drawing it, so it's not a high quality image. But it goes with the level of quality of the analog patches, so I'll keep it for now.

It's the place where I place my edited mame code, recompiled binaries, and some information on the changes I make. I am trying to improve mame's input to arcade's analog ports. Right now, most of the work has been on improving winMame's mouse input, I will try to add features to analog joysticks, and port as much as I can over to dosMame, too.

A lot is missing from this site, and I am open to changes, additions, etc of both the site and the patches.

There are limits, though. It is not designed for teaching how to program mame; nor how to use mame in general; nor a place for sound, video, or speed improvements. You can get some related information here, but there a lot of other sites already that do this. I'll answer all types of questions posted on the Mame.net and Mameworld forums that I can, but please try to limit the questions emailed to me to relate to Mame:Analog+ if you can.

Multiple mice in windows98 & windowsME (*USB mice only)
Mappable mouse input (including changing the axis and player)
Improved mouse simulation with analog joysticks

See feature list for a more complete and up to date list of features.

Because of Microsoft's closed mind toward innovation: Microsoft thinks only one mouse is needed to run their business OSs, so won't let applications see otherwise. I'm serious. Microsoft says it's for "security" reasons.

It's a "feature"(bug) from the windowsNT/2000 kernel, so winXP doesn't work either. Win98 and winMe don't have this "feature"(bug), so when directX 8.0 came out, the method used in the official Mame only needed to be upgraded to directX 8.0 functions and structs to let mame see multiple mice.

The reason directX 8.0 works unlike older directX's, is that it finally treats USB mice more like joysticks. If winNT/2000/XP can do joysticks, what "security" reason is there from treating mice the same? Answer: winNT was for businesses, and M$ is using the same old code, and has not updated it to include support for separated mouse input, and is too lazy to add it. (Can you tell I'm mad at M$?)

Note that all other Mame:Analog+ features will work in all versions of WindowsXP, win2000, and winNT, as well as win98 & winME.

Yes, but to get more than one mouse in a game, you need two USB mice. Also to get Logitech mice to be separate from each other, you cannot use Logitech MouseWare software AFAIK. Logitech or Microsoft drivers and Logitech mice are fine, but not Logitech MouseWare.

If you use PS/2 or serial mice, they will be part of the "sysmouse", and cannot be seen separate from each other or USB mice. More info somewhere in msdn.microsoft.com (M$ switches pages too often to link the the pages I am thinking about)

Yes, but as said above, mame will only see one mouse.

You will get all the other features, though. One feature that you may want to use is the split mouse axis feature. You can use two spinners, one on the X axis, the other on the Y axis, and set mame:analog+ to use them for different players, simular to what EMU+ used to do.

I have two pages on compiling mame:Analog+. One is just a shorter version of the other:

Detailed, longer howto

Shorter howto

Very basic outlines, originally contributed by Derrick Renaud before I edited them, are now included in the newest source and diff zip files, or accessed online: windows, mame32, dos.

Yes. If there are no conflicting changes between your changes and the changes made by analog+.

I distribute diff files as well as complete changed files. The diff files make it easier to bring these patches into your mame. If the patch you want doesn't have a diff file to download yet, let me knowand I'll try to get it online. (Diff files need the "patch" program; to use, type "patch -u -p 1 -i PATCHFILE.dif" in the mame folder.)

If you want the Multiple Mouse feature, you need to use directX 8. Other than that:

Yes, you can compile all the patches in directX 5, but the mame:Analog+ patch does need a couple changes to compile.

1. Edit src/windows/dxversion.h by commenting out line 8 and uncommenting line 9.
2. Edit src/windows/windows.mak by commenting out line 22.
3. Edit makefile and change the dxversion to 5 instead of 8.
4. Use the normal mingw for mame compiler

The other features do not need directX 8, so no edits are needed to enable those features.

Microsoft has a 123 meg file: directX 8.1 C++ SDK, of which you only need 1% (~1.3 meg). MS's licencing agreement does not want me to distribute them, sorry. So you can download that massive file, if you want.

However, you can now get the needed headers and library files from http://www.bloodshed.net/dev/packages/index.html

(If you download from bloodshed, above, you don't need this next item) Peter Puck has some stuff, but I think his site is not up anymore. I am now posting his directX 8 library files from my download page. It is already included in the package by bloodshed, though. Or you can use the Microsoft libraries, but some renaming or editing the mame:analog+ makefile would be needed.

Derrick Renaud has contributed cleaned up header files that you can download from the download page. They are copied over the files in the mingw/include with the same name, and remove the annoying warnings that the standard directX headers produce. Thanks Derrick!

Sort of, sort of, no, no, and no. Sorry.

My dos version still has the official dos mame's number of mice limit, and does not save the extra features yet.

I'm trying to get this to fully work with dos and mame32. I have released builds for these, but they may be missing some features that are in the mame:Analog+ version.

Not the other ports, though. Someone who wants to try to get it to work can email me questions on the general idea, but I don't know the other platform's specifics enough (if at all) to do it my self. (Advanced Mame for dos is a possiblity, and I will be looking into this in the near future)