Introduction: We must first of all know that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption! GOD Almighty Said: "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!
See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.
The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.
Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible:
The sections of this article are:
1- My personal note and experience with this issue.
2- Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughter's vaginas before
marriage in the Bible.
3- Fathers have full control over their daughters.
4- Even male Biblical figures have done it in the past.
5- Why would fathers do that?
6- The entire Bible is corrupted anyway according to its Theologians!
7- Rebuttals.
8- Conclusion.
My personal note and experience with this issue:
Dear reader,
Let Allah Almighty be the witness on my words here, and may He strike me if I am lying in anyway. I did hear about this sick tradition, that fathers would stick their fingers covered in a cloth into their daughters' vaginas few hours before their daughters' weddings and display the cloth before everyone to prove that she was a virgin.
I heard that it was practiced among some people in the Middle East in the very old days, especially in the southern part of Egypt, and Iraq, Iran and Moroco possibly as well. I wasn't sure exactly who these people where, because Egypt has Muslims, Christians and Jews in it. The southern part certainly is mixed with all these religions. So it's quite possible that even some Muslims practiced it, even though there is nothing about this sick tradition mentioned in any Islamic doctrine.
When I read Deuteronomy 22:13-18 in the Bible, as it is explained in details further in the article, I merely lost my mind! I was in great shock! The Bible matched exactly what I heard about when I was a kid in the Middle East.
That's why I took it upon myself to post this article. I really don't need this article to convince people about Islam's Truth. If you look at my web site, it would go well with it or without it.
In fact, my web site would probably go much better without this article, for it is truly a very offending one to both Jews and Christians and it caused me and still does to lose credibility. But since it is the Truth as far as I am sincerely and honestly concerned, then I must post it regardless of whom it may offend.
I hope you understand, and again, let Allah Almighty be the witness on my words and may He strike me if I am lying to you in anyway.
Regards,
Osama Abdallah
Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters in the Bible:
Let us look at the following Verses in the Bible: "If a man takes a wife and, after laying with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, 'I married this woman but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,' then the girl's father and mother shall bring proof [how do you think they would do that?] that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. The girl's father will say to the elders, 'I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, 'I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.' But here is the proof of my daughter's virginity.' Then her parents shall display the cloth [the father would literally stick his two fingers covered with a piece of cloth into his daughter's vagina before she gets married and keep that bloody cloth for as long as his daughter is married] with before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:13-18)"
Here is a more clear translation from Hebrew Resources: "The girl's father and mother shall produce the evidence of the girl's virginity before the elders of the town at the gate. And the girl's father shall say to the elders, "I gave this man my daughter to wife, but he had taken an aversion to her; so he has made up charges, saying, 'I did not find your daughter a virgin.' But here is the evidence of my daughter's virginity!" And they shall spread out the cloth before the elders of the town. (From the New JPS translation, Deuteronomy 22:15-17)"
The New JPS translation of Deuteronomy 22:15-17 makes it even more clear about having the parents of the girl displaying the bloody piece of cloth before the elders of the town.
According to the Talmud, the cloth should be "A cloth of less than 3 square finger-breadths. (From the Talmud, Eruvin 29b-30a and Succah 16a)", and before it is being used, it should be "soft, woolen and clean. (From the Talmud, Niddah 17a)"
Fathers have full control over their daughters:
The thing that we all must know is that the father in the Bible has full control over his daughters. Let us look at few quotes from Talmudic and Biblical resources:
The father has the right to force their daughters into marriage: "The father has the obligation to marry off his daughters. (From the Talmud, Kiddushin 29a, 30b)", and "Marrying off one's daughter as soon after she reaches adulthood as possible, even to one's Slave. (From the Talmud, Pesachim 113a)"
The father even has the right to sell his daughter as a servant (slave girl) to other men: "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 21:7-8)"
There is even pre-arranged marriage before the child is even born!
People before they are even born are arranged for marriage: "A Divine Voice announces who a soon-to-be-born boy and girl will marry when they grow up. (From the Talmud, Moed Katan 18b, Sotah 2a, Moed Katan 18b and Moed Katan 18b)"
Even Male Biblical figures have done it in the past:
According to the Midrash Hagadol, Isaac himself examined by inserting his finger covered with a piece of cloth into Rebekah's vagina before their marriage (Midrash Hagadol to Genesis 24:67 [ed. M. Margulies; Jerusalem: Mosad Harav Kook, 1967, 411]; according to Pirke Rabbi Eliezer, chap. 16, p. 38a, the examination consisted of defloration [ref. courtesy of Jeffrey H. Tigay, University of Pennsylvania and Prof. Judah Goldin]).
[http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jwst/4q159.htm, Note #13, read toward the end of the note].
According to the apocryphal Book of James, sec. 19-20, Mary was likewise (through the act of deflowering) examined for virginity by Salome (New Testament Apocrypha, ed. E. Hennecke & W. Schneemelcher, 385; ref. courtesy of Prof. Tikva Frymer-Kensky and Jeffrey H. Tigay, University of Pennsylvania and Prof. Robert A. Kraft).
[http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jwst/4q159.htm, Note #13, read toward the end of the note].
A small rebuttal to the Christian "Answering Islam" team, between me (Osama Abdallah) and Jim:
Jim- Defloration is the act of rupturing the hymen during sexual intercourse. Therefore the man can't stick his hand into the woman's vagina according to Mr. Abdallah. How can you have sexual intercourse and then stick your hand and a cloth at the same time in a woman's vagina. Make no sense does it? Then again most of Mr Abdallah's material makes no sense.
Osama- Who mentioned sexual intercourse here Jim? The woman's virginity can be taken through a person's hands, a father's finger inside his daughter as your porn-full bible clearly states it.
Here is what deflowering means Jim from www.dictionary.com:
1.To take away the virginity of (a woman).
2.To destroy the innocence, integrity, or beauty of; ravage.
Osama- So deflowering doesn't
necessarily have to happen only with the male's penis and intercourse as Jim so bogusly
claims above! The woman's virginity could be taken away by other means such as using
the father's fingers as the porn-full bible clearly states it. Jim, the fact that
"defloration" was used in your porn-full bible by male biblical figures to women
other than their wives only proves my point, and further proves how desperate you are!
Thanks for making a contribution to my site by further explaining this point Jim.
The above references of the books are a courtesy of the above mentioned people. If you wish to check them out for yourself, then go to any library and double check the references for yourself.
I know very well that the Egyptian and possibly the Iraqi, Iranian and Moroccan Jews in the old days used to do it; the father sticks his two fingers into his daughter's vagina covered in a piece of cloth and then he goes outside and shows everyone that she is virgin by displaying the bloody cloth before his daughter's actual marriage in few hours.
I had some Christians raise high objections to this point, and some had even criticized me of being a "liar". Well, beside from the above references that clearly prove my point, if you still do not believe me then go and seek it among OLD MIDDLE EASTERN Jews for yourself. Also, using your own personal common sense, explain to me what the Bible means by "her parents shall display the cloth" and its relationship to the girl's virginity? If the husband is the one to take his wife's virginity through sexual intercourse, then what would having the girl's parents displaying "the cloth" have anything to do with it?
You might then think, then how would the husband be able to know whether his wife was ever touched by another man if her father took her virginity away from her before marriage?
My answer to this question is that some men can tell by instinct whether their wives had previous relationships before when they sleep with their wives. This however is very difficult and doesn't apply to all men, especially when their wives are good in faking it. In the old Jewish culture (which was inserted into the Bible as a DIVINE REVELATION FROM GOD ALMIGHTY) fathers were to take their daughters' virginity and must keep the bloody cloth for as long as their daughters were married as a solid proof.
That is why the Bible mentions "the cloth" and orders the parents to use it as a proof. Using your own common sense, the cloth would not be a clean one like anyone you have at home. It has to be a bloody one.
Why would fathers do that?
According to the Bible, if women are caught having illegal sex, then they must be put to death. Where in the case of the man, that is not true. The text below, 4Q159, is a fragmentary collection of laws paraphrasing and modifying a number of Biblical laws. Lines 8-10 of the text read as follows:
ki yotsi' 'ish shem ra{ {al betulat yisra'el 'im b[yom] qaxto
'otah yo'mar uviqqeruha [ ]
ne'emanot v'im lo' kixesh {aleiha vehumeta ve'im be[sheqer] {ana
bah vene{enash shnei manim [velo'}]
yeshallax kol yamav
"If a man defames an Israelite virgin, if he speaks out on [the day] he marries her,
trustworthy [...] shall examine[2] her/it, and if he has not lied about her, she shall be executed.
But if he testified against her false[ly], he shall be fined two minas [...]
and he may [not] divorce (her) for his entire life...[3]"
From this text, we clearly see the hardship on the women in the Bible regarding adultery. The bride would lose her life if she was not virgin on the day she got married. So as a protection for the bride's life and her family's honor, the parents would keep the bloody cloth as a proof for her virginity for as long as she lives.
As I said, I know well that in the old Jewish culture in the Middle East, it was a common practice among them in Egypt and Iran, Iraq, Morocco possibly as well. I am not trying to make fun of the Jewish culture. The purpose of this article is not to make fun of them. I just want to expose the man made corruption that was illegally inserted in the Bible.
Many cultures had weird things against women and humanity. Take for instance the Hindus. It used to be part of their traditions/pagan religion to literally burn the woman ALIVE if her husband dies. They believed that if he dies, then her spirit needs to be connected with his, and by burning her ALIVE they would accomplish that. Ironically however, when the woman dies, then her husband doesn't get burnt alive nor gets executed nor even gets hurt. The man simply lives if his wife dies, but the woman gets burnt alive if her husband dies. This Hindu tradition is called the "Sati" tradition. Have the Indian government not banned it, then we would still see it practiced today.
Another example is the Pagan Arabs before Islam. My ancestors more than 1400 years ago used to bury their daughters ALIVE at the age of 2 to 4, because for many of them giving birth to females used to be shameful and would bring disgrace to the family/tribe! Islam came and stopped all of that and Muslims fought many bloody battles against the 365 Arab pagan tribes for many reasons, because Islam came and called for an end to many of the uncivilized traditions that they used to practice.
This pagan Arab culture reminds me of the Verse in the Roman Catholic Bible that says "...and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss. (From the New Jerusalem Bible, Ecclesiasticus 22:3)" And in the regular Bible,
it reminds me of the Verse that says giving birth to females causes double the filth (Leviticus 12:2-5), and fathers can literally
sell their daughters as slave-girls to other men (Exodus
21:7-8).
Inserting cultural garbage into a Holy Scripture and call it GOD's Divine Revelation would
be the greatest insult to GOD Almighty, and I as a devoted Muslim who Fasts the Holy Month
of Ramadan, Pray to Allah Almighty, pay 2.5% of my income for Islamic Zakah (Taxes) to
help the poor and do righteousness as much as possible have a great deal of problem with
that!
As for the Bible, sticking your middle finger (sorry to say that) into your daughter's vagina is not GOD's command! It is a corruption. The Old Testament is not the only Book that has many corruptions in it. The New Testament has it too. Check out the validity of the New Testament, the so called "GOD's inspired Book" to see if it's indeed a Divine Book.
The entire Bible is corrupted anyway according to its Theologians!
We must know that the Bible can not be trusted. Let us look at what the Theologians and Historians of the NIV Bible wrote about the Book of Deuteronomy:
"The book itself testifies that, for the most part, Moses wrote it (1:5; 31:9,22,24), and other OT books agree (1Ki 2:3, 8:53; 2ki 14:6; 18:12)--though the preamble (1:1-5) may have been written by someone else, and the report of Moses' death (ch.34) was almost certainly written by someone else. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 240)"
As we clearly see, there is ample evidence that proves beyond the shadow of the doubt that Moses was not the sole author of the book. He couldn't have possibly have written about his own death. This book is obviously corrupted! How can you claim that the book of Deuteronomy was indeed all revealed by GOD Almighty? If you're not sure, and you still insist on your claim, then you are committing a crime against GOD Almighty's Revelations.
(www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm)
The NIV Bible Theologians and Historians also commented on other books of the Bible to be corrupted by the scribes:
"...portions of the book were probably added by scribes or editors from later periods of Israel's history... (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 183)"
The Jewish scribes had very badly corrupted the Bible and turned it into a big lie. That is why GOD Almighty said:
"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"
In either translation above, we clearly see that the Bible has too many narrated stories and man-made cultural laws that were inserted into it that were not Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty. The following sites have tons of details that prove that [1], [2], [3], [4].
It's quite obvious that the Bible is more like a man made cultural book than a divine book that is meant to be for all times and all places. Anyway, the Bible was not even written by its original authors. That is why you see things such as "And Moses went up to the mountain...." instead of "And I [Moses] went up to the mountain....", or "And Jesus said to Matthew...." instead of "And Jesus said to me [Matthew]...." Most of the Books and Gospels of the Bible were written by third party people that were not even chosen by GOD, which makes the Bible just a cultural history book rather than a divine book from GOD Almighty. Please see Question #3 to see why Allah Almighty allowed for the Bible of today to be corrupted.
Rebuttals:
Please visit Further Rebuttals to Jim about Fathers raping their daughters in the Bible.
Conclusion:
The Bible is a book that had been badly corrupted by the man-made Jewish cultural nonsense through the "scribes". As we've seen above, GOD Almighty condemned the scribes in Jeremiah 8:8 and said they turned the Bible into a lie. The scribes are man made laws and lies that had been inserted into the Bible as Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty. Certainly, the "fathers inserting their fingers into their daughters' vaginas" law is a scribes' corruption in the Bible.
Further sites to research:
X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.
Raping girls at the age of 3 is allowed in the Jewish Holiest Book, the Thalmud.
What is the punishment for rape in Christianity and Islam? See how the Bible tolerates it and even indirectly promotes it to happen to single women.
Contradicting errors even in Porn in the Bible.
History of man's corruption in the Bible. The Bible was not even written by the Prophets of GOD and the Disciples of Jesus.
Christianity is the cause of our social corruptions today.
Response to the so called "Pornography" in the Noble Quran.
Church Priests/Ministers who changed their sex and still preach in their Churches.
Back to women in Islam and Christianity section.
References/Bibliography:
1- The Jewish Talmud.
2- For this meaning of baqqer see M. Jastrow, A Dictionary of the Targumim, the Talmud Babli and Yerushalmi, and the Midrashic Literature (repr. New York: Pardes, 1950), 1:187.
3- 4Q159, fragments 2-4, lines 8-10 (from J.M. Allegro, with the collaboration of A.A. Anderson, Discoveries in the Judaean Desert of Jordan 5. Qumran Cave 4/I (4Q158-4Q186) (Oxford: Clarendon, 1968), 8 and pl. II; corrected readings from J. Strugnell, "Notes en marge du Volume V des 'Discoveries in the Judaean Desert of Jordan,'" RQ 26 (1970), 178, and R. Weiss, review of DJD 5, in Qiryat Sefer 45 (1970):58 col. i (repr. in R. Weiss, Studies in the Text and Language of the Bible [Jerusalem: Magnes, 1981], 326 [in Hebrew]). T.H. Gaster assumes that there is no lacuna following uviqqeruha and construes ne'emanot as an adverbial accusative, "reliably," modifying the verb (The Dead Sea Scriptures, 3d ed. [Garden City: Anchor/Doubleday, 1976], 93; cf. the one-letter restoration uviqqeru[hu] ne'emanot by Mr. Y. Buchsenbaum of Jerusalem, cited by Rofe, Mavo' Lesefer Devarim, 158). However, the parchment is broken on the left edge of the final letter of uviqqeruha, and there is certainly a word missing (velo') in the same spot one line below. [ref. courtesy of Jeffrey H. Tigay, University of Pennsylvania].
4- The NIV Study Bible, 10th Anniversary Edition.
General Editor: Kenneth Barker.
Associate Editors: Donald Burdick, John Stek, Walter Wessel and Ronald Youngblood.
Published at: Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, MI 49530, USA
ISBN: 0-310-92589-4.
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