Yeah, I think it's alright, and it's good to see David Baddiel on TV again.

I've seen (or heard, rather) better freeform comedy than that but it's not a bad half hour's viewing. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Jon on Wed May 31 07:32:10 BST 2000:

I only saw it last night(Tue 30). It was OK. You could tell Skinner was working through a load of ideas for stand-up routines that he hadn't written fully yet, but I suppose that's all they could do. Also, they didn't cop out and have filmed inserts/sub-Morris street interviews, which is what I was half expecting.

Also, did you notice that the opening credits were a piss-take of the Fat Les 'Vindaloo' vid? Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Mrs Pope on Wed May 31 08:55:35 BST 2000:

I thought it was great. It certainly puts Barratt & Fielding's improvisational 'genius' into perspective, that's for sure. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Suiii on Wed May 31 17:21:56 BST 2000:

It's been quite good, Mondays was very funny, probably just cos of that odd fella with the beard, but the lads work very well together. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Wed May 31 18:20:29 BST 2000:

I saw Wednesday show, which was OK, but i was disturbed to see the audience member dragged on stage getting the biggest laugh.

Also, when did Baddiel learn to play a musical instrument? And why has he never shown this talent before? (Or have i just missed him before)

The jokes are quite good, although i'm sure i've got a Frank Skinner video somewhere from about 5 years ago where he used similar jokes to last night.

The format appears a bit dodgy and cheap though. Still, if ITV paid me and my friend lots of money to sit on a couch, i'm sure we could think of something funny to say.

Couldn't everyone? Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Suiii on Wed May 31 18:24:44 BST 2000:

He played the piano quite often in 'Newman and Baddiel In Pieces', there was quite a funny sketch where Rob Newman was trying to write a piece of music, and Dave made it sound like 'Roll Out The Barrel'! Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Wed May 31 20:15:32 BST 2000:

Thanks for the help Suiii.

I noticed in my last posting i said i had seen Wednesday Show. This is obviously impossible, unless i have developed a time machine. I, of course, meant i had seen Tuesday episode. Sorry for any confusion caused. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Suiii on Wed May 31 20:49:11 BST 2000:

Darn! I was going to ask if I could borrow it so I could go back in time to witness the birth of my hero, Bob Carolgees! Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Blake Connolly on Thu Jun 1 05:40:17 BST 2000:

Anyone who wants a bit of freeform comedy might wanna have a look at http://www.nickabbot.com

There, I've done it - Given the site a plug! But I don't care cos I'm off to Asia in a few hours and I won't have regular net access there, hehe
Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By JOHNNY BANANA on Thu Jun 1 12:47:05 BST 2000:

SHAME ITV AIN'T MAKING A NEW SERIES OF BADDIEL & SKINNER FOR EURO 2000 THAT WAS GOOD BACK IN 96 AND PREHAPS IF THEY HAD STAYED AT THE BBC THEY WOULD HAVE GOT MORE SERIES ANYWAY I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD AND THE REASON IT WASN'T MADE BY CARLTON Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Anonymous on Thu Jun 1 14:56:29 BST 2000:

What killed 'Fantasy Football' for me was the tedious droning on about football. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Anonymous on Thu Jun 1 15:59:11 BST 2000:

>What killed 'Fantasy Football' for me was the tedious droning on about football.

I am not a big football fan, but I thought the show was great. Remember the first two series where they didn't have Jeff (Geoff?) Astle, but had the opening theme tune with the following words:


Fan-taaa
sy Football League
Fan-ta-sy
Football league Fan-ta-sy.

Foot-ball
League Fantasy
Football League
Fantasy Football League.

Or something like that.



Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Mogwai on Thu Jun 1 16:32:10 BST 2000:

>if ITV paid me and my friend lots of money to sit on a couch, i'm sure we could think of something funny to say.
>
>Couldn't everyone?


Of course not. Chances are that if someone sat you on a couch with your mate and instructed you to be funny for half an hour you would have shot yourself in shame within twenty minutes. Not everyone is funny. (I know it's rather bizarre to have to point that out, but apparently it needed saying.)


"If Channel 4 paid me lots of money to go out into the street and interview people, I'm sure I could think of something funny to say. Couldn't everybody?"
I. Lee 1999
Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Ewar Woowar on Thu Jun 1 16:52:00 BST 2000:

>Remember the first two series where they didn't have Jeff (Geoff?) Astle, but had the opening theme tune...

Yeah, but at the beginning of the show Frank would sing a "comedy" topical song about the week's footballing events to the tune of "Back Home" - it was abysmal. In fact the whole first series was rather poor compared to later ones, it was the novelty that got them the second series, not the quality. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Arma on Thu Jun 1 17:00:45 BST 2000:

> "If Channel 4 paid me lots of money to go out into the street and interview people, I'm sure I could think of something funny to say. Couldn't everybody?"
I. Lee 1999

*Titter!* Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By NF on Thu Jun 1 18:54:53 BST 2000:

Unplanned has steadily improved over the week and compared to ITV's usual 10.30 scrapped up dirt pasted off as TV it is a complete classic Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Thu Jun 1 20:55:54 BST 2000:

>"If Channel 4 paid me lots of money to go out into the street and interview people, I'm sure I could think of something funny to say. Couldn't everybody?"
>I. Lee 1999

Dear God no, don't tell me Ian really said that? Please?

Of course, i was being sarcastic in my comments (I am an extremely sarcastic person, so watch out.), but i'm glad you could point out what makes Baddiel and Skinner popular: the fact you can tell they are real 'friends', and not just
two celebraties thrown together because ITV think it'll work.

"Robson and Thaw - Unplanned". I can see it now...
Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Ewar Woowar on Fri Jun 2 07:05:22 BST 2000:

>(I am an extremely sarcastic person, so watch out.)

<hides behind sofa> Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Jon on Fri Jun 2 12:25:25 BST 2000:

How about 'Donovon and Lee Unplanned' - Daisy Donovon and Iain Lee attempt to amuse millions of people, entirely without the use of a decent script.. oh, hang on... Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Justin on Fri Jun 2 23:07:18 BST 2000:

>How about 'Donovon and Lee Unplanned' - Daisy Donovon and Iain Lee attempt to amuse millions of people, entirely without the use of a decent script.. oh, hang on...

Yeah, and they'd talk about any subject as long as it was(n't) wanking. Excellent idea.


Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Bent Halo on Mon Jun 5 23:36:51 BST 2000:

Returning briefly to Baddiel's prowess on the piano, he played it in MWE aswell - as Richard Stillnotdead, with his terrible political songs. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Jon on Tue Jun 6 06:59:52 BST 2000:

Richard Stilgoe wrote the lyrics for Andrew Lloyd-Webber's worldwide smash hit show 'Starlight Express'.

Just thought I'd mention that, in a neutral sort of way. No comment to make about it.

'Richard Stillnotdead' (who was decapitated by Ivan the presenter[Rob Newman]) was brilliantly accurate, however. Must be why Stilgoe hasn't been booked to appear on TV since... when was it? Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Justin on Tue Jun 6 14:54:09 BST 2000:

Last time I can actually remember seeing Stilgoe on TV (not counting Countdown appearances) was some Amnesty benefit highlights show on C4. But that was late 80s - it must have been ages ago, as it featured Rory McGrath in a "performing" capacity. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Tue Jun 6 21:05:41 BST 2000:

re: last night show - why are Itv so concerned about people using the f-word. especially considering the show was on a 10:30. both BBC amd channel 4 have shown programmes that contain that word in as early as 9:00 (witness The Cops), and C4 deicated a whole show to it. So what is ITV's problem.

And don't even get me started on the C-word. Christ they're only collections of letters.
They're prettey meaningless without cultural references and associated codes and conventions blah blah blah Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Suiii on Tue Jun 6 21:47:35 BST 2000:

That Laurie the Lesbian is *really* scaring me. A lot. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Ewar Woowar on Wed Jun 7 07:04:54 BST 2000:

>re: last night show - why are Itv so concerned about people using the f-word. especially considering the show was on a 10:30. both BBC amd channel 4 have shown programmes that contain that word in as early as 9:00 (witness The Cops), and C4 deicated a whole show to it. So what is ITV's problem.
>
>And don't even get me started on the C-word. Christ they're only collections of letters.
>They're prettey meaningless without cultural references and associated codes and conventions blah blah blah

Wasn't it David Baddiel who made this very point on the Mary Whitehouse Experience by introducing the audience to the word "felch", explaining what it meant, and then using it over and over? The point being that the word's meaning is so much worse than that of the word "fuck", yet the word itself itsn't considered to be worse.

Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Jon on Wed Jun 7 07:26:54 BST 2000:

Re: Richard Stilgoe at an Amnesty concert

Why didn't he do the decent thing, and offer to be swapped for some political prisoner rotting in a tyrant's torture cell?

I bet the prisoner would have written some really biting songs about his government... Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By JOHNNY BANANA on Wed Jun 7 12:34:23 BST 2000:

that was funny last night especially with that man\woman. This is the funniest thing on ITV for a long time the reason is it is not made by carlton Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Justin on Wed Jun 7 16:28:44 BST 2000:

The opening titles:

Are they filmed outside the Wimbledon Theatre? Looks like it, especially as it looks like Wimbledon Odeon cinema in the distance at one point. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Wed Jun 7 20:29:24 BST 2000:

The series is definatly getting better, and is easily the best thing on ITV (discuss)

I think it's probably because they are getting used to the format of the show, while at the same time flaunting the strict ITV imposed conventions (20points)

"Oh David, you can't say that... when David has sex, he likes to hold his balls..." Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Suiii on Wed Jun 7 20:57:07 BST 2000:

That was great! I wish I'd been taping it. "£ o'clock in the morning he called me...." Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By John! on Wed Jun 7 21:06:50 BST 2000:

Yes, I've started watching it too!

Who'd have thought it was on ITV. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By johnny banana on Thu Jun 8 11:28:12 BST 2000:

sadly next week is the last in the series

dam ITV i wish they would get rid of Wheel of fortune, You've been Framed, Blind date, stars in their eyes and scottish & carlton tv Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Suiii on Thu Jun 8 12:32:41 BST 2000:

....emmerdale, Catchphrase, Supermarket Sweep, anything with Vorderman or Denise Welch in it, 'Millionaire'. I could go on all day.
I agree, Baddiel and Skinner have temporarily uplifted the tone of ITV. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By John! on Thu Jun 8 18:13:19 BST 2000:

The tone was temporarily lifted early in the year when 'At Home With The Braithwaites' was transmitted. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By JOHNNY BANANA on Fri Jun 9 10:07:22 BST 2000:

>The tone was temporarily lifted early in the year when 'At Home With The Braithwaites' was transmitted.

I HATED THAT THAT WAS SHITE

Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By John! on Fri Jun 9 22:55:31 BST 2000:

Well done!

I'm so pleased you found the time to give us your considered opinion. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Joe on Wed Jun 14 22:09:52 BST 2000:

Was the man sitting next to the naked bloke Adam Bloom - i caught a glimpse of him near the end and thought it was. Fantstic last show, though. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Sorrel on Wed Jun 14 22:31:40 BST 2000:

I didn't see Tuesday's. What was tonights refernce about two men wanting a fight all about?

The streaker- I know it wasn't, but once he put the wig on he had a look of Al Murray. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Wed Jun 14 22:38:42 BST 2000:

>I didn't see Tuesday's. What was tonights refernce about two men wanting a fight all about?

Bear with me here, my memory's not that good - B+S were asked if they had ever seen a UFO, to which audience member 1 said he had seen a bolt of electricity between his two index fingers when he had been meditating on an island somewhere. Audience member 2 then proceeded to call 1 a wanker, and assorted names, to which the other replied if you want to meet outside or something similar. Both 1 and 2 looked pissed off.

Someone can probably give you a better explanation than this Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Jon on Thu Jun 15 07:22:11 BST 2000:

"The streaker- I know it wasn't, but once he put the wig on he had a look of Al Murray."

How bizarre - I was going to comment that the one in the audience with red&white wig (not the streaker) looked like Al Murray. The streaker put on a black wig before attempting to streak. I'm sure the streaker was some actor who's been in an advert or something. It was obviously a set-up by the production team that B&S weren't in on.
Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Sorrel on Thu Jun 15 10:16:16 BST 2000:

Earlier on this thread someone commented that it would be easy to sit there and be funny for half a hour - anyone could do it. I think getting the 2 lookalikes out of the audience proved how wrong that idea is. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Sorrel on Thu Jun 15 10:17:47 BST 2000:

>
>How bizarre - I was going to comment that the one in the audience with red&white wig (not the streaker) looked like Al Murray.

Yes, he did too. Maybe they've cloned him or something. Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Jon on Thu Jun 15 11:19:54 BST 2000:

"Earlier on this thread someone commented that it would be easy to sit there and be
funny for half a hour - anyone could do it. I think getting the 2 lookalikes out of the
audience proved how wrong that idea is. "

Oh, be fair - they had the sense to just sit there and let B&S do the clever lines. If only some of the other people in the series had got the right idea... Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Sorrel on Thu Jun 15 11:50:55 BST 2000:

>Oh, be fair - they had the sense to just sit there and let B&S do the clever lines. If only some of the other people in the series had got the right idea...

I wasn't having a go at the two lookalikes - I couldn't have done any better. I'm just saying it goes to show how hard it is. It's the ones who are saying "Me and me mates could do that, no problem" that I'm disagreeing with.

Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By abc on Thu Jun 15 16:03:07 BST 2000:

>>Oh, be fair - they had the sense to just sit there and let B&S do the clever lines. If only some of the other people in the series had got the right idea...
>
>I wasn't having a go at the two lookalikes - I couldn't have done any better. I'm just saying it goes to show how hard it is. It's the ones who are saying "Me and me mates could do that, no problem" that I'm disagreeing with.
>
> I beleive that the above comment was made by someone taking the piss out of iain lee
a while back. It was not serious.
Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Thu Jun 15 17:23:19 BST 2000:

>>>Oh, be fair - they had the sense to just sit there and let B&S do the clever lines. If only some of the other people in the series had got the right idea...
>>
>>I wasn't having a go at the two lookalikes - I couldn't have done any better. I'm just saying it goes to show how hard it is. It's the ones who are saying "Me and me mates could do that, no problem" that I'm disagreeing with.
>>
>> I beleive that the above comment was made by someone taking the piss out of iain lee
>a while back. It was not serious.
>

Yeah, it was a joke - hence the 'couldn't everyone' part - as i said earlier i'm a bit sarcastic. Maybe
Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By abc on Thu Jun 15 21:32:53 BST 2000:

>>>
>>> I beleive that the above comment was made by someone taking the piss out of iain lee
>>a while back. It was not serious.
>>
>
>Yeah, it was a joke - hence the 'couldn't everyone' part - as i said earlier i'm a bit sarcastic. Maybe
>
Ah, so it was you was it? Aren't you going to thank me for defending you?
Perhaps you should change your name to PJ sarcasm (like DJ, but differnt, see?)

Subject: THANK YOU
Posted By PJ on Thu Jun 15 22:35:33 BST 2000:

thank you abc (is this your real name) for helping me.
I really mean this.
No really
Honestly
etc... Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Heaven 17 on Fri Jun 16 18:04:05 BST 2000:

No, abc is not my real name, i'm justa huge fan of the early 80's sheffield synth pop combo. I am of course refering to the human league... Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Fri Jun 16 18:10:58 BST 2000:

>No, abc is not my real name, i'm justa huge fan of the early 80's sheffield synth pop combo.

Can't be many of those left - perhaps next you should go for '80's hard rock groups. Then you can have Def Lepard and err.. well that's it.
Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Justin on Sat Jun 17 11:17:53 BST 2000:

>>No, abc is not my real name, i'm justa huge fan of the early 80's sheffield synth pop combo.
>
>Can't be many of those left - perhaps next you should go for '80's hard rock groups. Then you can have Def Lepard and err.. well that's it.

Clock DVA, Cabaret Voltaire, and dance record label Warp. (Terrorvision? Or are they from Leeds?)
>

Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By PJ on Sat Jun 17 11:45:03 BST 2000:

>>>No, abc is not my real name, i'm justa huge fan of the early 80's sheffield synth pop combo.
>>
>>Can't be many of those left - perhaps next you should go for '80's hard rock groups. Then you can have Def Lepard and err.. well that's it.
>
>Clock DVA, Cabaret Voltaire, and dance record label Warp. (Terrorvision? Or are they from Leeds?)
>>
>
I think terrorvision are from bradford. Also form sheffield are pulp, and the all seeing i.
Now i can see why they built that music 'thing' there.

Subject: Re: Baddiel
Posted By Anonymous on Tue Jun 20 23:01:13 BST 2000:

kindly don't repost quoting the previous comments, if its only one comment up then its easy to check