Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Jon on Sat Sep 2 09:38:22 BST 2000:

Well, I reckon he's fibbing. It was him all along, it's just that our powers of argument and persuasion have worn him down.

God Save The Queen.

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Squidy on Sat Sep 2 11:10:01 BST 2000:

Well, THAT'S a turn-up for the books.

So, you don't really think I'm a "thieving cunt" then do you, Jim? Cos as I said before, I've got all your books.*crawl, crawl*

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Bent Halo on Sat Sep 2 11:16:11 BST 2000:

Mmm, and thus a clumsy conspiracy theory was born.

I still very much doubt it was Dan L or anyone else. Can you source those messages, mr Sedge?

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Squidy on Sat Sep 2 11:52:37 BST 2000:

I've had a thought. If this guy is the REAL Jim Yoakum, and he seems quite polite and well-mannered, and the last bloke was the EVIL Jim Yoakum, who was rude, swore and probably had a goatie beard, explain Mogwai's rude e-mail:

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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 12:46 am


Dear Jim

I am a regular visitor to the Some Of The Corpses Are Amusing website, although I have absolutely no connection with it. I have only just seen the Cease And Desist order you
sent them on 29 August, and I am truly appalled. I truly regret that I did not have the
presence of mind to copy and paste the entire script of Out Of The Trees as soon as I
originally read it, but then I did not envisage that it might be necessary.

Your letter is mild-mannered and mellifluous, but it can't mask the brute fact that you have
ensured that none of us is now able to read this (a) significant and (b) very funny piece of
writing. By enforcing the copyright in this instance, you have made the show completely
unavailable to the public. Surely it's tragedy enough that the bits that were filmed don't
seem to exist any more - why withdraw the scripts from circulation too? Or are they due
to be published at some point in the future in another extortionately-priced volume...?

Please don't think I'm being unreasonable or naive about this. There hasn't been any
objection from Douglas Adams' people about the presence of the script on the site -
possibly because he hasn't been made aware of it, but I like to think that it's because he
knows there's no other way that we can get to read this stuff.

I know that you were a personal friend of Graham's towards the end of his life, and that
you feel you are acting purely in the interests of his estate, but truly, honestly, would
Graham really have been glad that you had banned an appreciative audience from
reading some excellent Chapman material? Or would he, as a friend, have taken you to
one side and told you that you were acting like a bit of a cunt?

Yours, disappointed


Received: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:02 am

(Mogwai):

Explain to me please exactly why it is that you
believe it's right for you, or for anyone else, to
post, download and/or otherwise freely take (i.e.
STEAL), the property of another, via the Internet?

Perhaps you feel you have this nameless right because
the Internet is this great, faceless library of items
where you can just take what you want because you'll
never get caught? Or, maybe you feel all the
musicians, writers, film directors etc. who are
constantly being ripped off via the Internet are "so
rich" that they have somehow lost the right to their
own copyright?

Let me ask you, do you walk into a book store or CD
shop and say "what the hell, I want it" and just take
it? I dunno, maybe you do. Your comment: "are they due
to be published at some point in the future in another
extortionately-priced volume...?" all ready tells me
you're a cheap bastard who'd rather steal things than
support the artists. Steal from a store, or download
an illegally posted script - it's all theft. Justify
it all you like.

You're trying to hide behind a very weak argument that
I am somehow being a baddie for rightly enforcing the
copyright of Graham Chapman, and that you are somehow
the wounded goodie who has been "deprived of reading
this comic script." Come off it, you're merely sore
because you weren't able to steal it fast enough from
the site.

Finally, in regard to the to the imaginary
conversation with Graham, I'll tell you exactly what
he'd have said to me: "I died deeply in debt, Jim, and
feel badly that I have left so little for my family.
Please help safeguard my interests, and ensure that my
family will be all right." And if you don't like that
answer mate, you can piss off.

PS How the fuck DARE you write to me, whinging about
how I'm "depriving" you of reading this script, you
selfish, thieving, cunt. Go fuck yourself.

**************************************

This doesn't fit in. Anyone can fake a forum name but not an e-mail address. Maybe this new Jim Yoakum is just as bad as the old one. Or maybe not.

I'll go now.

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Bent Halo on Sat Sep 2 12:19:47 BST 2000:

This had crossed my mind.

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By subbes on Sat Sep 2 18:06:21 BST 2000:

alt.conspiracy.out.of.the.trees?

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Rodney Marsh on Mon Sep 4 03:10:56 BST 2000:

is that a REAL website?

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By subbes on Mon Sep 4 03:44:34 BST 2000:

No.

If it were anything, it would be a newsgroup.

like alt.alt.alt.alt.alt (which does apparently exist) or alt.appreciation.paul-daniels (which I suppose doesn't).

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Rodney Marsh on Mon Sep 4 03:56:04 BST 2000:

oh yeah!

D'oh!

but I appreciated Paul Daniels, he used to be on Saturday nights. i had to wash my hair then, i never wanted to 'cos i'd miss the end of the show

he was great on wizbit too.

Subject: Re: Dear People of this Newsboard
Posted By Squidy on Mon Sep 4 11:04:07 BST 2000:

Ostalazuzalum!